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CPLTECH



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:10 am    Post subject: CVT & Towing Reply with quote

I see that the 2013 PF comes with the CVT type transmission.
How well does that type of transmission hold up for towing purposes?
My gripe for the current 5 sp is that in 4th, the torq conv does not go into lock-up, so what type of coupling (torq conv???) system does the CVT use? At what point does it “lock-up”?
I get the impression that lock-up only occurs in the “odd number” gears, could that be why some mfg have gone to a 6 sp trans?

Just wondering what the options are for the future replacement of my current 2006 PF.
Maybe a 6 sp manual Xterra?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to tow about 5K lbs worth of trailer and race car with my first generation Murano (which, like the current Murano and the new Pathfinder, is basically just a lifted V6 CVT AWD Altima wagon) with no problem. No idea how long the transmission would hold up to that abuse regularly however...
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CPLTECH



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a response from someone who does a lot of test drives for a living. Of course, these are brand new cars and how they hold up is another subject...

http://www.cleanmpg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45877

Hi CPLTECH:

Here you go... (Pix at link above)
2013 Nissan Pathfinder First Drive

5,000 pounds of luxury machine... Both front and back. The Xtronic Cvt did exactly what it was supposed to. When heading downhill, either fuel cut or it moved to the maximum ratio... Up hill or launch, lowest ratio and it stayed there as required. Flat crusie, moved to near maximum and stayed there as needed.

Overall the Xtronic Cvt was just as seamless with a load as it was without and won me over.

Wayne
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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tow an rPOD trailer with the 2013 PF CVT. It is a dream. Smooth towing good mileage, no hunt of gears ...

Best TV ever had.
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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thinker wrote:
I tow an rPOD trailer with the 2013 PF CVT. It is a dream. Smooth towing good mileage, no hunt of gears ...

Best TV ever had.

Thinker, Welcome & Thanks for posting.

Could you tell us the MPG and the usual speed you drove at?

Over on a RV forum there was a discussion of the rPod, that it did not cut thru the wind as well as owners expected. Back in 2000 went to Disney with a JayHawk 20ft lite weight and a ’93 Chev Blazer 4.3L. I noticed the temp started to climb at 57 MPH, hence had to drive it at 56. My guess is that wind resistance really increased at that speed curve for most any trailer. So for the moment, I try to stay between 55 & 60.
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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CPLTECH wrote:
Thinker wrote:
I tow an rPOD trailer with the 2013 PF CVT. It is a dream. Smooth towing good mileage, no hunt of gears ...

Best TV ever had.

Thinker, Welcome & Thanks for posting.

Could you tell us the MPG and the usual speed you drove at?

Over on a RV forum there was a discussion of the rPod, that it did not cut thru the wind as well as owners expected. Back in 2000 went to Disney with a JayHawk 20ft lite weight and a ’93 Chev Blazer 4.3L. I noticed the temp started to climb at 57 MPH, hence had to drive it at 56. My guess is that wind resistance really increased at that speed curve for most any trailer. So for the moment, I try to stay between 55 & 60.


The shape of the rPOD does not really reduce wind resistance. Height is height -- that more than weight along with speed determine mileage.

Towing around 60 -65 I get around 12 - 13 MPG. I use the PF to commute in and get around 22 pushing 80 all the way. If I slow to below 70, I get around 24-26 not towing.

There is never any engine temp rise with the PF at any speed. I have towed at 70 - 75 but that cuts into mileage severely.. like down to 10 mpg.

The CVT transmission is sweet. I do not use OD lockout or TOW mode and the tranny tows at around 2500 RPM. Not towing I cruise at 2000 RPM.
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PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2013 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am shopping for a SUV that can tow my 2,300lb Lund Pro Guide 1675 (boat) and am surprised to see how much your mpg dropped while towing. I would expect around 15-16mpg not 12-13mpg. Hmmmm.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TapOut64 wrote:
I am shopping for a SUV that can tow my 2,300lb Lund Pro Guide 1675 (boat) and am surprised to see how much your mpg dropped while towing. I would expect around 15-16mpg not 12-13mpg. Hmmmm.


A boat has a lower profile than my camper. I would expect to get 15-16 towing a boat also.
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