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Postby akley88 » Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:51 pm

NmexMAX wrote:I honestly don’t think the R51 could handle 37’s. My 35’s barely fit, and in the rear, it definitely looks as if they have the potential to rub given the right situation/flex. The front should be fine, I’ve modified my fenders so they don’t rub at all.

But with some fairly extensive body modification, it can be done and also be functional.
i was hoping with the body lift, coilovers, and calmini i would be able to clear the 37s. but that will also depend on how quickly i can get the front and rear diff sorted out


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Postby NmexMAX » Mon Dec 09, 2013 5:01 pm

akley88 wrote:
NmexMAX wrote:I honestly don’t think the R51 could handle 37’s. My 35’s barely fit, and in the rear, it definitely looks as if they have the potential to rub given the right situation/flex. The front should be fine, I’ve modified my fenders so they don’t rub at all.

But with some fairly extensive body modification, it can be done and also be functional.
i was hoping with the body lift, coilovers, and calmini i would be able to clear the 37s. but that will also depend on how quickly i can get the front and rear diff sorted out
It should be able to clear with all the lift, but the wheel wells themselves are a bit small for 37's. I always look at my 35's and think, damn, that's very close to hitting on a certain bump, it could happen. :twisted:

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Postby akley88 » Mon Dec 09, 2013 6:59 pm

NmexMAX wrote:
akley88 wrote:
NmexMAX wrote:I honestly don’t think the R51 could handle 37’s. My 35’s barely fit, and in the rear, it definitely looks as if they have the potential to rub given the right situation/flex. The front should be fine, I’ve modified my fenders so they don’t rub at all.

But with some fairly extensive body modification, it can be done and also be functional.
i was hoping with the body lift, coilovers, and calmini i would be able to clear the 37s. but that will also depend on how quickly i can get the front and rear diff sorted out
It should be able to clear with all the lift, but the wheel wells themselves are a bit small for 37's. I always look at my 35's and think, damn, that's very close to hitting on a certain bump, it could happen. :twisted:
Haha could be part of the fun. I'm not afraid to cut the fenders if needed.

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Postby NmexMAX » Tue Dec 10, 2013 7:39 am

My fronts are trimmed a lot.

You can sorta of tell here.

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Postby akley88 » Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:28 am

NmexMAX wrote:My fronts are trimmed a lot.

You can sorta of tell here.

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you did a better job then me on the fronts

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Postby NmexMAX » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:44 am

I didn't do it, an overpriced body shop did. I would have rather done it the way you did though.

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Postby akley88 » Tue Dec 10, 2013 1:54 pm

haha. im gonna use the clubfrontier alignment method when i go up to bigger tires

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Postby canderso » Wed Dec 11, 2013 7:58 pm

Ackley-

So what are you thinking about as far as gearing? If you are jumping into 37' tires that is going to require more gear than we have available. I don't think a 3.36 would get the job done. Are thinking of going to an M205 in the front and adding something like a 4.10 gear? I don't remember what the "upgraded" rear differential is out of the Armada or the V8 Pathfinder (R230?). I don't know if there are many gearing choices available for it either.

Fortunately the M205 is used in the Titan and gets some following among Frontier guys doing the Titan swaps.

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Postby akley88 » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:09 am

canderso wrote:Ackley-

So what are you thinking about as far as gearing? If you are jumping into 37' tires that is going to require more gear than we have available. I don't think a 3.36 would get the job done. Are thinking of going to an M205 in the front and adding something like a 4.10 gear? I don't remember what the "upgraded" rear differential is out of the Armada or the V8 Pathfinder (R230?). I don't know if there are many gearing choices available for it either.

Fortunately the M205 is used in the Titan and gets some following among Frontier guys doing the Titan swaps.
i plan up moving up to 4.10s. i have talked to rugged rocks and they have said that they have had a customer swap in a r200 from something like a 180sx, 240 or 300zx. so im going to be investigating this method. in the front i will use the titan front diff. the 37s are gonna be down the road. cause i will need a second car while doing the db lift and the diffs. plus a pathfinder on 37s isnt exactly a very friendly dd

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Postby NmexMAX » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:12 am

R230 also doesn't have much available. 2.94, 3.36, and 3.54 overseas. The 3.36's do just fine with the VK56.

But, if we could reverse the process linked below, it might be possible. I've also spoken with RR about this, and he is interested in helping us out.

http://forums.hybridz.org/topic/91309-h ... pictorial/

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Postby akley88 » Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:11 pm

NmexMAX wrote:R230 also doesn't have much available. 2.94, 3.36, and 3.54 overseas. The 3.36's do just fine with the VK56.

But, if we could reverse the process linked below, it might be possible. I've also spoken with RR about this, and he is interested in helping us out.

http://forums.hybridz.org/topic/91309-h ... pictorial/
after going to tires that big, power and stopping will become even more important. ive been looking for anyway to swap out the rear diff for one with more options. so i'm gonna check out the link.

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Postby NmexMAX » Thu Dec 12, 2013 3:50 pm

I thought adding all my accessories would affect it, but surprisingly, it didn't as much as I expected.

The bumper/winch/full size spare & 325 65's and tire carrier did not affect it as much as I thought it would. Add to that the rock sliders and full load of cargo when i just recently moved.

But I really would appreciate if there were more gearing options for that pesky R230.

I still think it be worthwhile to follow through with this type of idea. But use the M226 that comes with the OR Xterra/Frontier, and stock Titan. There are plenty of options for it.

http://www.thenissanpath.com/viewtopic. ... 4b170a2371

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Postby canderso » Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:47 am

Nmex Max-

Now you have hit the nail on the head! I continue to research the idea put forward in that thread. I honestly do not see myself ever needing to do a full SAS in the front and rear of my Path, but a solid rear would be really nice. Pair that with a Titan swapped front end and I think the truck would be even better for me than it is now.

There are recipes out there that would yield 4.5" of lift (or so) and wheel travel would be around 11-11.5" with the proper formula of Titan swap parts. Now, with the added track width in the front, my preference is to add the complementing track width in the rear without the use of wheel spacers, so I have been trying to figure out if I could make the stock Titan rear work (M226). There is a air locker available for the Titan solid rear axle and it sounds like ARB is possibly still moving forward with an air locker for the front M205 differential. Gears for the M205 and M226 are available through Rugged Rocks.

I am thinking (not confirmed through research and measurements yet) that the spring perches and the shock brackets on the Titan axle could be relocated to the positions found on the stock Frontier rear axle. That should line up to where the rest of the mounts need to be added to the stock Pathfinder frame to support the solid axle rear.



Does that sound feasible?

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Postby Touchdown » Fri Dec 20, 2013 10:35 pm

Akley-

What's the "clubfrontier alignment method"?

Also, is there anything on the truck, after the body lift, that you don't like?
I'm just trying to picture what might be left hanging down if anything.
(rear hitch?)

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Postby Diablo3662 » Wed Dec 25, 2013 2:31 pm

I've been looking at what everyone has done and I'm wanting to do a Full Rancho Quick lift with new shocks in rear. Will I get the "clunk" that I was reading about on Calmini website ? And any help I can get would be greatly received I'm only looking for little bit of lift just to help out in some places we go


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