Well, we are just about to roll over 30k and I feel the 245 70 16 Generals on my XE are almost ready to be discharged. I don't know about anyone elses experiance with the Grabbers, but I don't feel I'll be missing them all too much.
So it's time for an upgrade and I'm looking for peoples feedback and experiences with LT tires. I've decided I will be going with a 265 75r16 like the SE Off-Road model is equipped. I like the look of a 31 and in a perfect (better paid) world I'd be working with a 31.5 final diam on a 18" rim. Now before you guys start shouting BFG AT KO etc. let me tell you my priorities:

1) I like to drive aggressivley; cornering hard, twisties and triple digits are a few of my favorite things. I'm on road 95% of the time so even tho MTs look cool, I really don't have a legit need for them.

2) I don't wheel like I used to (bought a WR450 to scratch that itch) but I'll be damned if I'm going to get stuck on a wet lawn like I did twice this summer. I do end up pulling a stuck friend or two out of a jam and I do Tow my bike trailer in to some pretty loose stuff, so the 5% I'm off road, I need to be able to do my thing so a highway tire just won't do it for me.

3) I like snow, seriously. One of my favorite things to do after a snow storm is to take a drive in the country before the plow trucks kill the mood. Finding a fire road after 10+" have dropped without tracks on it is like christmas for me... M+S is a necessity. I like playing in puddles and overflow too

Now out of all the tires that sound like they might meet my needs the only ones I have any experience with are Toyo Open Country ATs (loved em). Even the two sets I had on my Old Grand Cherokee V8 were P and not LT. So other than deeper tread depth I wonder what the difference is going to be with sidewall strength and how it effects ride/handling and wear.

I've heard good things about the Revos (although I'm still somewhat leary of fire/bridgstone) and have gotten a few nods about the Geolanders as well. The new Forteras are an interesting looking tire (triple tread) yeah it sounds gimmiky ... but I picked out the Open Country A/Ts originally based on the tread patteren. Anyone seen the Green Diamond tires?
www.Greendiamondtire.com

let the opinions fly!

I have the same 245/75/16 Grabbers on mine, and am looking forward to them showing some wear (still look good at 10k miles) so I can justify dumping them. They are pretty much junk.

I have owned the BFG AT's (have them on a Bronco now) and they are an awsome tire, but, like you I don't spend enough time off road. I go out and play some, but am on the street much more. I also use my Bronco for trail runs, so I don't need that level of rock/mud grip.

I had decided to go w/ the Revos, but might change my mind. Check out the Pirelli Scorpion ATR - the reviews have been really good.

I used to have Pirelli Scorpians on my old Grand Cherokee. They got me thru a few snow storms, since I had to go to work no matter what. The Scorpion ATR looks like the update from my old ones. Yokohama geolanders have been recommended by coworkers. Since you are more on road than off, I would get the A/T S, since it will be quieter on the road than M+S, but still give you traction off. The Revo's are a good looking tire and the extended tread pattern will be quieter than the dogbone BFG's. They are a bit expensive though. I heard about Green Diamond tire a while ago, for having some of the lowest prices. I can't remember much else about them.

So my choices would be
Pirelli Scorpian ATR
Yokohama Geolander A/T S
Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revo

Let us know what you finally get.

Looking at some quick reviews from www.tirerack.com:

Pirelli Scorpian ATR

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp ... s&place=22
Great reviews and a middle of the pack price.

Yokohama Geolander A/T S

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp ... s&place=23
The reviews are more mixed of this tire, but it is by far the lowest cost of the group. I've had Yoko's on past sports cars and loved them, always did exactly what I asked of them, on the off of the track. Not sure about their truck tires, but might be worth a shot.

Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revo

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp ... s&place=19
The reviews look good, and it's an awesome looking tire. [/img]

BFG All-Terrain T/A KO

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp ... s&place=15
A legend. A great tire all around, but in my opinion a little loud/rough if you don't take it out in the rocks/mud much

From personal experience,I would highly recommend Yokohama Geolanders.They are well priced and they're a terrific tire.

Wait wait wait, y'all are missing something here...dude, you got stuck on a wet lawn?!? Don't think you can get away without telling us that story

Good point! That's a story we need to hear.

So busted...
Ok, so this summer we had a nominal amount of rainfall and in some places drainage isn't the best. For example the old lady's parents house where we sometimes store the bikes is situated behind a Church which preaches "Love thy neighbor but not if it means fixing your drainage so the house downhill's back yard wont pool up every time it rains"...or something like that.
So I'm pulling up my 3 rail with our bikes up a slight incline through their back yard ( so I'm not trying to tear it up) in 4H and I see something shiny a smige below the grass line. Thats when you realize your going way too slow and thats a pool of water. It was too late to give throttle 20 feet back where tires sank in 4 inches and two troughs pointed out where I had come from. The soil in that particular area is a very greasy clay and at the time I had about 3-4 mm left till the wear bars... so I was hosed. All I could think was: This so would have not happened if I my old Toyo Open country ATs, or something with some tread .
The other time was a nearly identical scenario at my buddy's house which abuts a Farmer's field sans trailer and throw in a tight corner with some bad camber. But I made him eat his "should'a got a real truck" words when I pulled him from the exact same spot last month except he managed to dig his Z71 in the worst way.

In the Path's defense it didn't help that I had my tire pressure near the max for a stab at fuel eco and a firm ride...

Thanks AMR, I'm a little skeptical about the tire rack reviews. I see alot of "100 miles on them and they are the best tire I've ever had, WOOOO!" and most of the sprited drives live far from the snow...
Can someone tell me why is it the guy with 48k on a set always lives in a climate which couldn't relate with yours?

It's such a tough call, the Revo's and the ATR's tread patterns are incredibly similar to the Nitto Terra Grappler:


and It's sister tire the toyo Open Country AT's:


I can't say enough good about the Open Country's they are the only tire on any vehicle (cars untill 2000) I've ever driven (with exception to my old company car) to last me past 45k... But not too many people seem to have experience with them. But that's the 2 cents my experience can contribute.

Boogeyman, I'm a skier and if I can find a snowy field fire road/trail to play with, I'm there. Plus with my lawn story I think M+S might give me the little extra help I need.

One tire I've always wanted to throw on purely for aesthetics:

the Open Country MT

Ok, your story about the yards makes a bit more sense now!

You have to take any internet review w/ a grain of salt, afterall, anyone can post one up. You can't tell much about a tire in it's first few miles, for example he General Grabbers actually gripped pretty well for about 1,500 miles for me. I was pulling the boat up wet ramps in 2wd w/o problem in May, then by September I needed 4wd in the same places to not slip.

What I like in a tire, might not be what others like in a tire.

There is more to a tire then tread pattern too, tires that look the same do not always drive the same.

Let me know what you end up w/ however, as it sounds like you are looking for the same things I am in my tires, and I will need to replace in the spring.

Fofiddy, one more backing for the pirelli's. I was able to average 85 on a trip home to Maine and still do a little off-roading to my dad's camp. The tread pattern on the Revo's look more appropriate for M+S so it will be able to clear out of the tread.

bfg at are great , and quiet on the highway . had them on my exploder , blazer k-5 and dodge ramcharger . they look noisey but are the quietest tires i,ve run yet and i've had pirreli michelin cooper and general , i always return to bfg . and i live in snow country , north of montreal , though for winter i run studded winter tires , lots o freezing rain

I've got 13k miles on a set of 265/75R16 Nitto Terra Grapplers, and have had them in all conditions and temperatures from 100s in Texas on the beach to -2 in Montana in snow storms and ice.

Excellent tires, no noticeable wear at 13k miles, and they work really well in the snow and wet. I was very impressed (comparing to several sets of BFG ATs and MTs in the past). They are a bit noisy at road speeds, but seem to handle just fine (considering their weight and design) at speeds up to 110.

Though more expensive, I'm told that the Bridgestone Dueller AT Revo does everything these do as well (or better) but are a bit more quiet. The Revos were not quickly available when we bought the Pathfinder, so we went with the Nittos as they were in stock and I've had no regrets. I will try a set of Revos next time around though as I've just heard too much good about them to ignore them.

Well, I finally broke down and got a set of Toyo Open Country AT's but instead of the stock P245/65R16 I decided to go with the LT265/75R16(C load rating, 6 ply). I was considering the BFG or the Revo's but each were $30 more per tire and my experience with the Toyos was so good in the past I decided to take the safe bet. The Nitto Terra Grapplers are the OCAT's sister tire with a slightly modified shoulder.

First of all I do not recommend the LT for anyone looking for a car-like ride. Secondly if you do decide to go with LT tires your tire info on the side of your door is void and useless. LT tires are designed to be run at a higher PSI for handeling loads and to be able to corner with them confidently. The manufaturer of the perspective tire your looking at should have a load-inflation table for it. Running the tires at 35psi will yeild sloppy results (bump steer, slow steering responce, roll in corners) for my personal application I found 44-46.5psi to be the sweet spot. At that inflation the tire steers easily and body roll is virtually nill (also thanks in part to airlift helper springs). Also the ride is much more tolerable at those pressures.

Pros:
flatter cornering
snow
slices through water (very high hydroplaning resistance)
16mm tread depth for whatever muck I encounter getting the bikes around.
Looks great

Cons:
2mpg down...maybe
stiffer ride ( more yee-haw then filling losening but noticable on rough surfaces)
nosier on highway speeds.
speculated brake wear\loss of acceleration these particular tires weigh 42lbs a peice vs the 33lbs of the general AW's it came with.

Now as far as Speedo recalibration I did disconect my - term for over 15 min and had to recal my vcd (drivestraight under 30 mph for 300ft). I don't belive it did anything for the speedo. Before the tire change I set my cruise on 55mph and tried to validate it with a GPS unit which showed the speedo was inflating the speeds by 2-3 mph (therefore inflating my mpg reating too). After the reset and new tires the Speedo is within .3mph of the gps.

Fofiddy, have you noticed any rubbing with the wider tires?