I doubt you'll find much on the CARID site. They didn't even list that these come with bulbs (or what type). They did however handle my return quite well and refunded all my money including shipping..which I expected.

So far I'm satisfied with the adjustments I've made on mine. They're still not nearly as bright as I would like but they're better. I think my lights annoy folks from behind...and it seems to be worse on trucks/suv's. 90% of my driving is on empty roads so I'll just deal with a few middle fingers. Anyone I catch up with or follow gets passed pretty quickly anyway.

I thought it would be a quick & painless install today, but it ended up being a huge PITA. I had no idea I had to pretty much disassemble half the car just to change the damned lights. I only partially removed the fender liners, mostly because I just didn't have the room to remove them (11" on the driver's side, 4" on the passenger side). I busted a number of those plastic retaining clips, which really didn't do much in the first place, so I replaced a few of them with bolts. The passenger side worked fine until I hit the turn signal and it went into hyper drive, so I had to double check the wiring. No problem there. I ended up removing and reversing the bulb, which solved the problem.

6 1/2 hours later, I have to say they look good. I didn't have the energy to drive somewhere and adjust them a bit, but I did take it for a drive just to check them out. The cutoff is insane, but I guess that must be normal with projectors. I'm so used to scattered light & not a razor edge cutoff. It looks like I have more light forward, but there really isn't any light directly in front of the vehicle, say the first 10 feet or so. Turn on the fogs & it's perfect. I'll see how it goes for a while. If I'm not happy with the standard bulbs, I'll order up the HID kit.

No pics of the beams outside, just a couple from the install.



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if you can get some night time pics. Id really lke to see what the cut off is like and how they look.

NYPathfinder wrote:if you can get some night time pics. Id really lke to see what the cut off is like and how they look.

I'll see what I can do. I think I'll drive over to a test wall on Christmas Eve to adjust them, since the traffic should be dead by then.

So to replace the headlights you have to pretty much take off the grill and bumper from the truck?

jurbina23 wrote:So to replace the headlights you have to pretty much take off the grill and bumper from the truck?

The grill, bumper & fender liners. The service manual is NOT very amusing because it jumps around to various sections, such as "before doing this, go to this section of the manual and do this." Most of my time was spent bending & propping the fender liners enough to get a wrench or wratchet underneath, which really didn't work very well. If I have to do this again, I'll be completely removing the fender liners.

Took me some time to find a wall with a flat section of road/parking lot next to it. I finally stumbled on a flat loading dock behind a local grocery store that did the trick.

The last few nights, I've been paying attention to my low beams & just knew that they were aimed too low. I could never really tell because the roads have been wet since these were installed, and there is always so much other light around. Well, as the following shot will show, they were really low. The blue crosshairs on the wall are the center positions of the low beams, but about 2.2 inches lower than they are on the Pathfinder (exactly 25' from the wall):



Here they are after adjustment. I kept the driver's side a bit lower since I really don't want to blind anyone with these, especially since my OME lift will also come into play.



Super easy to adjust, which was nice. Naturally I didn't even think about taking a photo of the low beams on a dark street, or even the high beams, until I was warm at home eating dinner. If I can remember, I'll see if I can get a few shots showing the output on a street. One thing I've noticed is that the high beams certainly look better than the stock headlights. I'll see how it goes over the next couple of weeks now that the lows are adjusted. I'm still pretty tempted to go the HID route for the lows.

Okay, one more question related to the ol' light upgrade. I've been browsing through hundreds of different threads on car forums related to HID lighting. It's so freaking slow at the office today that I've spent a good 5 hours doing this, thus I can feel the onset of a headache. In short, the HID kits offered via carid seem to have negative reviews. Those are out. I've literally read thousands of posts concerning the HID kits from ddmtuning.com, and they are positive for the most part, albeit quite a few people buying them are under 20 & installing in reflectors. They do offer a lifetime warranty, but I just can't convince myself that I will be buying anything other than junk for a mere $30 or so. Any thoughts or comments? I'm actually more interested in one of the kits from here instead. Obviously a huge price difference, but is it justified?

EDIT: nevermind, it looks like most of the kits out there are a crapshoot. I'll just have to decide on one based on real world feedback from all the car forums.

I rarely venture out at night aside from driving home from work, and the times that I am out in the dark, I naturally don't think about bringing the camera along. So, here are 2 crappy shots. The first shows the low beams. If you look down the street on the right a bit, you can see the nice line of light along the fence.



Here are the high beams. I had to stare at the 2 photos for some time to pick out the differences, kind of like Where's Waldo? Anyway, most of the difference is at the end of the street. The trees are a bit more lit up, along with the entire fence on the right.



I've been searching for a nice big wall that has no other lights around so that I can get a bunch of different shots, but I simply can't find one. I shot an email to a guy by the name of Steve over at kbcarstuff.com & invited him over to sign up to be a vendor member here. I'm hoping he will do so, as I've seen/read his posts on numerous car & SUV forums. I'm definitely going to order some HIDs from him. I was toying with the idea, but I happened to be riding in one of those BMW X whatevers the other night & noticed just how fantastic the HIDs are. That pushed me over the top and now I absolutely have to buy some for myself.

Projectors on Ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/05-08-NI ... 2c5a1350bf

Ad is screwed up.....these won't fit the 2008. Headlights are different between 2005-2007 and 2008+

Lights look good. You can see the cut off way down the road easily. Although it is hard to tell how much light is actually in front of you compared to stock. Just because of the wet road and street lights that are there.

wow, where did you get those? I have xenon etc, but not projectors.... do you get them without the orange??? (no rule in europe for that, just have it clear). Looked awesome... Are they self adjusting as the orignal xenon?

Lights look good. You can see the cut off way down the road easily. Although it is hard to tell how much light is actually in front of you compared to stock. Just because of the wet road and street lights that are there.

Yeah, I can't seem to win when trying to take a picture at night. It's insane how much light is being used everywhere. I'll try to get some more pics in the future, but away from civilization. The only thing is, I'll have my HIDs installed by that time, but at least it will show how well/poor the projectors work.

wow, where did you get those? I have xenon etc, but not projectors.... do you get them without the orange??? (no rule in europe for that, just have it clear). Looked awesome... Are they self adjusting as the orignal xenon?

carid.com

The orange as in the turn signal light & running light? Yes, they are covered with an orange lens. They aren't self adjusting. In fact, the only adjustment allowed is vertical, although the horizontal can be shimmed. These are just cheap projectors that manage the light far better than stock.

NVSteve wrote:

Lights look good. You can see the cut off way down the road easily. Although it is hard to tell how much light is actually in front of you compared to stock. Just because of the wet road and street lights that are there.

Yeah, I can't seem to win when trying to take a picture at night. It's insane how much light is being used everywhere. I'll try to get some more pics in the future, but away from civilization. The only thing is, I'll have my HIDs installed by that time, but at least it will show how well/poor the projectors work.

wow, where did you get those? I have xenon etc, but not projectors.... do you get them without the orange??? (no rule in europe for that, just have it clear). Looked awesome... Are they self adjusting as the orignal xenon?

carid.com

The orange as in the turn signal light & running light? Yes, they are covered with an orange lens. They aren't self adjusting. In fact, the only adjustment allowed is vertical, although the horizontal can be shimmed. These are just cheap projectors that manage the light far better than stock.

Ok, will have a look at it. Thanks bro! We use orange bulbs or blank bulbs with orange lights. You can easy spot a american import car on that yellow field as non of the europeans for ages has been produced with that. Some find it cool, others dont... I think I like it all clear.... do you know if it is possible to remove?