Sooo...

Just had my first oil change in Germany on my bearly brand new vehicle.
VK56VD motor. I gave it a 1000 mile oil change with 0w-20 and now 4000 miles later with 5w-40 which will likely remain its lifetime fill.
They were not used to the VK56VD though and may have overfilled it.

They charged me for 7 Liters, it takes 6.5 Liters.

Now just the charge by itself doesnt worry me, shops do that all the time if a new bottle is started; not even the absence of the partially used (should be by half) last bottle in the vehicles back is all that unusual, excellence rarely exists today.

BUT what creeps me out is that there is a tag under the hood which states 7 Liters filled.
Thats a half liter overfill!
I checked the dipstick and it does appear a bit over, though not nearly what I would think would be a half liter.
The oil seems to be about 0.2 inches above the "dip" and just a hair under the "H" letter.

Doesnt look like a half liter over to me, but still that tag "7 liters filled" is worrisome.

BTW they used this oil:
https://www.arnoldclarkautoparts.com/pr ... 90090032gb

I assume this is your new Armadillo we're talking about. The half quart over isn't any big worry on a VK, but the 5W40 will void your engine warranty and is likely to cause EVT codes in cold weather.

VStar650CL wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 22, 2024 12:19 pm

I assume this is your new Armadillo we're talking about. The half quart over isn't any big worry on a VK, but the 5W40 will void your engine warranty and is likely to cause EVT codes in cold weather.

Yes.
Thanks for the quick reply

I was kinda worried about that what it would do if I was half a liter over (which I am still not 100% it really is)

Do you think based on my description it could be a half quart/liter over?
Maybe I'll post a pic of the dipstick tommorrow, it just seems it should show more and not still be below the "H" letter (but above the dimple)

I respect your judgment tons.
but allow me the counterargument on viscosity

In other markets the VK56DE was marketed as needing, 5w-30, 5w-40, 10w-40 and even 20w-50.
I do not think bearing clearanaces or anything has changed. In some markets oil recommendation calculators still result in 5w-40 and 10w-40 for the VK56VD in a Y62 (australia for example and australia is no hotter than the US southwest).

I belive it will be a tough sell in front of any small claims court, for Nissan to say this Nissan oil at a Nissan dealer with a Nissan part number, damaged the engine/voided the warranty.

But i am interested the info on EVT, I did a search and found nothing?

PS: They do not recommend 0w-20 for this motor in Germany, 5w-30 is the minimum viscosity they use and 5w-40 is still common. Though it is a rare beast for them so maybe they dont know, what they dont know?

The VVEL on your engine controls the intake valves, but the exhaust still uses traditional hydraulic phasers (EVT). Nissan phasers in general are fairly sensitive to viscosity, and IVT/EVT codes are pretty common in cold weather when people use very thick oil. I think the thickest any recent domestic engine allows is 5W30. It isn't like it's any better for engine wear anyway, modern synthetics all have film strength that's off the charts and that's the ultimate determiner of when metal will meet metal. Vis the warranty, with written confirmation of the wrong weight oil, they have a perfect excuse to try voiding it. It may not stand up in court, you're right -- but why on earth give them the excuse?

VStar650CL wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 22, 2024 3:23 pm

The VVEL on your engine controls the intake valves, but the exhaust still uses traditional hydraulic phasers (EVT). Nissan phasers in general are fairly sensitive to viscosity, and IVT/EVT codes are pretty common in cold weather when people use very thick oil. I think the thickest any recent domestic engine allows is 5W30. It isn't like it's any better for engine wear anyway, modern synthetics all have film strength that's off the charts and that's the ultimate determiner of when metal will meet metal. Vis the warranty, with written confirmation of the wrong weight oil, they have a perfect excuse to try voiding it. It may not stand up in court, you're right -- but why on earth give them the excuse?

Good info ext time I'll go with 5w-30 then
Even though my VK56DE in the pathfinder always got 5w-40, 0w-40 and no issue.with any codes.
IN the meantime it iwll be interesing to see if it thorws any codes next winter, but i feel since its a 5w-x it will be just as thin in winter as a 5w-30 until the oil gets hot. And then there is no issue

Also I re checked the oil today this time on perfectly even ground before it was ony kinda/sorta evenish)
And its now does not appear to go past the full mark dimple, by more than 0.1 inch, if that and falls well short of the actual letter "H" thats above the dimple.
So its fine, but it is still werid/creepy that there is a tag on my engine 7L added.