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You won't get any disagreement from me. The Pathfinder name should not have been used. Period. One glance at the 2nd row seats in their minivan seat channels is all it takes. My dealer uses one as their courtesy car & I got a chance to ride in it for a few miles. It truly is just another "car."skinny2 wrote:I was not pissed off or disgusted by the name.....I felt it was disingenuous but that's common in the car world. However now that I've seen it, I personally feel like the name is fraudulent. I'm well aware it's now car-based but for some reason I thought it would still have SOME utility given the history and marketing. Face it, the Jeep Grand Cherokee is built on a unibody yet is in a totally different ballpark.
Let's keep in mind though, those things (older models) are beasts offread even with the unibody. Solid front and rear axles, V8, MT, etc.skinny2 wrote:Face it, the Jeep Grand Cherokee is built on a unibody yet is in a totally different ballpark.
I had a 1999 Jeep grand Cherokee limited. It had the 4.7L V8, Dana 35 front, dana 44a rear, with limited slip, quadra drive system. Sold it to my older brother to pay for a hunting trip last year, but man that JEEP was a beast. Loved it. It went everywhere I wanted it to go and some. I just visited my family this past week and was able to see my old jeep and sure miss that beast. It was so capable off road, and still had all the luxury inside. Leather, dual climate control, good OEM radio. If my brother was selling it, I'd buy it back in a heart beat. Oh forgot to mention it also had a 4 inch rough country lift that I installed with 32.1 inch MTRs and a hitch mounted rear spare tire carrier. It was also able to tow 6800. Great rig. That model is the WJ, and it's made from 99-04 if you are looking to buy one.NmexMAX wrote:Let's keep in mind though, those things (older models) are beasts offread even with the unibody. Solid front and rear axles, V8, MT, etc.skinny2 wrote:Face it, the Jeep Grand Cherokee is built on a unibody yet is in a totally different ballpark.
I also refer to it as the Murano XL on other forums too. Of course, I got it from here, not sure from who, probably one of you guys.
Similar story. I bought a '99 Ltd V8 new and put 100k on it in 3 years then sold it to my uncle. He just sold it a couple years ago with over 200k miles and never did much to it. Original engine/tranny for sure.volvite wrote:That model is the WJ, and it's made from 99-04 if you are looking to buy one.
I still watch for the WJs while I'm driving. Even being almost 10 years old for they still have a great style.skinny2 wrote:Similar story. I bought a '99 Ltd V8 new and put 100k on it in 3 years then sold it to my uncle. He just sold it a couple years ago with over 200k miles and never did much to it. Original engine/tranny for sure.volvite wrote:That model is the WJ, and it's made from 99-04 if you are looking to buy one.
If I buy a JGC, it will be a 2014 which now has 8-speed auto and improved mpg. But honestly they're just overpriced. A basic V8 Ltd is over $40k at invoice. I paid about the same for a FAR better equipped Acura MDX which in 100k miles is worth multitudes more than the JGC.
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The new Pathfinders I checked out all had "no haggle" prices on the windshield. $34k on the SL's and $38k on the platinums. The SL is the most similar to the Ltd JGC I priced....so $6k difference. That's a lot in my book. The '12 Silver Edition R51 I'm looking at has under 10k miles and priced around $25k. Seems like a pretty good deal. Just not sure I want to spend the $$ for basically the same vehicle....sans 90k miles.volvite wrote:
As for the 14s, they are expensive, but so are the new pathfinders. I bought my 08 V8 used with less than 20K miles. But if I did my research right, I think it sold new for over $40K.
volvite wrote:I had a 1999 Jeep grand Cherokee limited. It had the 4.7L V8, Dana 35 front, dana 44a rear, with limited slip, quadra drive system. Sold it to my older brother to pay for a hunting trip last year, but man that JEEP was a beast. Loved it. It went everywhere I wanted it to go and some. I just visited my family this past week and was able to see my old jeep and sure miss that beast. It was so capable off road, and still had all the luxury inside. Leather, dual climate control, good OEM radio. If my brother was selling it, I'd buy it back in a heart beat. Oh forgot to mention it also had a 4 inch rough country lift that I installed with 32.1 inch MTRs and a hitch mounted rear spare tire carrier. It was also able to tow 6800. Great rig. That model is the WJ, and it's made from 99-04 if you are looking to buy one.NmexMAX wrote:Let's keep in mind though, those things (older models) are beasts offread even with the unibody. Solid front and rear axles, V8, MT, etc.skinny2 wrote:Face it, the Jeep Grand Cherokee is built on a unibody yet is in a totally different ballpark.
I also refer to it as the Murano XL on other forums too. Of course, I got it from here, not sure from who, probably one of you guys.
Great to hear all of the Jeep love on these boards. I was raised in a Jeep family and we always had one or more growing up. I still have a '98 XJ Limited with 175k on the odometer. It has an aFe intake, Banks headers, an Old Man Emu heavy duty lift, a Magnaflow exhaust, and the '99+ intake manifold conversion. Never had an issue with it offroad and I've taken it through creeks and rivers and snow banks etc. Just an all around great vehicle I can't bear to get rid of so it sits on blocks for half the year in the garage.volvite wrote:I still watch for the WJs while I'm driving. Even being almost 10 years old for they still have a great style.skinny2 wrote:Similar story. I bought a '99 Ltd V8 new and put 100k on it in 3 years then sold it to my uncle. He just sold it a couple years ago with over 200k miles and never did much to it. Original engine/tranny for sure.volvite wrote:That model is the WJ, and it's made from 99-04 if you are looking to buy one.
If I buy a JGC, it will be a 2014 which now has 8-speed auto and improved mpg. But honestly they're just overpriced. A basic V8 Ltd is over $40k at invoice. I paid about the same for a FAR better equipped Acura MDX which in 100k miles is worth multitudes more than the JGC.
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As for the 14s, they are expensive, but so are the new pathfinders. I bought my 08 V8 used with less than 20K miles. But if I did my research right, I think it sold new for over $40K.
I've flirted with the idea of the new JGC diesel. I'm going to watch for awhile and see if they really get the mileage posted. The price is really up there ($4,500 minimum just for the engine) but it might be worth it for a "somewhat real SUV" that can get 28mpg.Zen_master wrote:
My biggest issue with the new Grand Cherokee is there are so many different trim levels. I think the last I looked there were half a dozen including two ultra premium levels the commonly used Overland badging and something new to this model called the Summit edition. I don't want to constantly be looking over my shoulder with each model year worrying Jeep is going to best the model I bought. You mentioned your Acura. We have an Acura in my household and they do it right. Essentially you get the option of navigation or no navigation. All other options are standard on the car.