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You sure you don't have some sort of serious brake problem? Also keep in mind oversized tires, AT's, and a lift will impact your braking significantly. The PF is no sports car but it doesn't have dangerous braking at least in stock form. Testing results show it's similar to other SUV's and pickups from its era.not on the rug wrote:Just some food for thought...the pathy is a large heavy vehicle. It stops like crap. It's borderline irresponsible to drive the vehicle with factory brakes. I'd rather get some decent rotors and pads and maybe get less miles out of them, but know that when I need to stop, I can stop.
similar to other pickups and suvs is fine as a comparison to pickups and other suvs. what i'm getting at, is that the braking capabilities of all of those vehicles is garbage. just because the pathy has similar numbers as the 4runner or ford f150, doesn't mean that those numbers are good. when I hit the brakes, I want to stop. period. do I expect it to stop like my G35? no. but I want it to perform like a champ. because when that little kid comes barreling down the driveway on his/her bike and in to the road, I want to be able to stop. (it happened to me, and believe me, factory brakes wouldn't have stopped me in time.) or when the dipshit 80 year old runs the stop sign and cuts me off (um, this morning on my way to work) I want to know that when I hit my brakes, I will stop.skinny2 wrote: You sure you don't have some sort of serious brake problem? Also keep in mind oversized tires, AT's, and a lift will impact your braking significantly. The PF is no sports car but it doesn't have dangerous braking at least in stock form. Testing results show it's similar to other SUV's and pickups from its era.
It's funny you say it's "borderline irresponsible" to drive this with stock brakes but then you install parts that make it perform even worse. And then complain about the crappy braking. The "non-stock" rotors/pads you're running are not going to make a difference in an emergency situation. Certainly not enough to overcome bigger tires, sloppier suspension, and a taller height. They should help with repeated/fade issues, but the only way to really improve emergency braking is with larger calipers/discs/pads.not on the rug wrote: similar to other pickups and suvs is fine as a comparison to pickups and other suvs. what i'm getting at, is that the braking capabilities of all of those vehicles is garbage. just because the pathy has similar numbers as the 4runner or ford f150, doesn't mean that those numbers are good. when I hit the brakes, I want to stop. period. do I expect it to stop like my G35? no. but I want it to perform like a champ.