That's odd as they usually get great reviews. The former model, the LTX M/S2, was a great tire! I believe it was made in the US. That was replaced by the Defender LTX M/S, which I believe is made in Vietnam. I just recently purchased Kumho Crugen HT51's for what ended up costing me about $426 shipped after discounts and rebates (mounting not included). They appear very similar to the former LTX M/S2's but a little lighter. They get great reviews, but I haven't had a chance to install them yet.