Rear hatch not opening (fuse blows)

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Postby FLiPMaRC » Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:37 am

Touchdown wrote:Just wondering if the latch got dropped in the 11 & 12 model years because of problems?
I definitely don't have it on my 2012 SV.


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Postby DanJetta » Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:24 am

In case anyone needs this part, it's not shown (or listed) in the standard Nissan parts diagram, so you have to physically type it in. A guy from Courtesy was awesome enough to call around to find someone who had it in stock to verify the part number and that it did, indeed, differ from the others in that it has a cinching motor.

Description: Lock Assembly (with motor)
Part number: 90502-ZS00A

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Postby SimulatedZero » Tue Mar 19, 2013 5:27 am

Just to keep on this thread with door problems, the electronic lock for my rear hatch just stopped working about two days ago. If I want to open the rear hatch I have to crawl through and use the manual override. Anybody have any thoughts on how to start fixing it?

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Postby NVSteve » Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:11 am

Okay, enough already. Could someone please post a picture of what this electronic locking mechanism looks like in their Pathfinder? Or even a picture of the part itself?

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Postby SimulatedZero » Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:05 pm

I mean, I suppose I could. Unlike the earlier posts I was referring to the door lock, not the gate motor. I would imagine that it would be like all the other door locks in form and function. I was just curious if this was a common problem and if anybody knew of a relatively painless solution. This thread just happened to be relevant, so I posted here instead of starting a new one.

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Postby DanJetta » Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:39 am

I've been told the latch mechanisms are a common fail item. I think yours might work differently but on mine (2008) locking the car simply disengages the electric push button that releases the rear hatch. Unlocking the car reengages it so when you push the button, the inside latch releases. On mine, when you push the button, you can hear a little motor releasing the latch so you can pull the hatch up. To clarify, the motor doesn't push the hatch up for you, it just releases the latch that holds it closed.

Check the fuse and this weekend, pop the inside cover off of your hatch and see what's going on. It's super easy.

@ NVSteve: Here's a picture of the latch with the motor.

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Postby NVSteve » Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:45 am

DanJetta wrote: @ NVSteve: Here's a picture of the latch with the motor.
Thanks! That thing looks pretty massive. I'd love to see this in the door itself. I can't imagine that they would have redesigned the hatch just for the few that have this motor...in other words, could it possibly go in a non-motorized locking hatch?

@SimulatedZero: all is good! My previous post wasn't directed at you, just this thread in general. You may want to start a new thread with your problem, because it will otherwise be overlooked if you keep it isolated within this thread.

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Postby DanJetta » Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:31 am

I agree. So weird that they only put it into a couple of years in the middle of a model run. Then again, they did that with the locking gas cap, I think. And I've never seen the same rear DVD system in two Pathfinders.

I'd rather have the manual latch. This thing just seems overcomplicated and unnecessary. And everybody just slams my rear hatch, anyway.

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Postby Homer J » Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:57 am

DanJetta wrote:I agree. So weird that they only put it into a couple of years in the middle of a model run. Then again, they did that with the locking gas cap, I think. And I've never seen the same rear DVD system in two Pathfinders.

I'd rather have the manual latch. This thing just seems overcomplicated and unnecessary. And everybody just slams my rear hatch, anyway.
Ha! I had to gently remind my wife not to slam the hatch. Just lower it until gravity takes over and let it go. Of course, next time we left the grocery store, as soon as I pulled onto the road I got a tailgate open warning. "You said not to slam it" she says. :roll:

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Postby skinny2 » Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:01 pm

I slammed mine the first year or two I had mine.....so I don't think it's the type that you can damage by slamming. I had no idea it had that type of latch until I stumbled across something in the owners manual.

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Postby NVSteve » Thu Mar 21, 2013 8:53 am

DanJetta wrote: I'd rather have the manual latch. This thing just seems overcomplicated and unnecessary. And everybody just slams my rear hatch, anyway.
Well, I don't let any other bastards touch my Pathfinder, so I'm not worried about what someone else will do. My girlfriend can open it, but can't close it (too tall for her & too much oomph required for the 225# struts). BUT, the biggest reason I would want the self closing motor is this: when I shut the rear hatch on our Xterra, it sounds solid & identical to closing a side door. On the Pathfinder, even closing the rear hatch gently & delicately as can be, it sounds like the cheapest shit in the world. IMO, they really f'd up the fitment of the hatch. I don't know if it simply needs much thicker seals, door stops or whatever. Or am I the only one experiencing this?

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Postby DanJetta » Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:42 pm

I absolutely agree with needing bigger seals or door stops.

The door is a friggin' beast. When closing it, you have to hang on it to pull it past the half-way mark. Then, if you let it go, it slams so hard that you'd think a semi just rear-ended you doing 80.

Same thing with opening it. You push the button, wait for the latch to disengage, and then call 3 of your friends to help you lift it past quarter-way where the shocks take over.

I usually pull it down, then use two arms while leaning backwards to lay it down softly, where the latch clicks once. When I let go, the motor takes over and pulls it one more click so it's tight.

Funny, my wife refuses to go through my carefully-outlined closing procedure, so she just leaves it open and says, "You get it."

Personally, I think it would help if the hatch didn't weigh as much as the rest of the car. I've always been impressed with how solidly the other doors close.

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Postby ShipFixer » Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:15 am

NVSteve wrote: On the Pathfinder, even closing the rear hatch gently & delicately as can be, it sounds like the cheapest shit in the world. IMO, they really f'd up the fitment of the hatch. I don't know if it simply needs much thicker seals, door stops or whatever. Or am I the only one experiencing this?
Think it's just you :-D

Actually doesn't the XTerra have a sealed window? The window on mine slightly flutters when I close it. That may contribute to a slightly less solid feel. I don't notice the difference with my friend's XTerra.

I damped the sheet metal in mine and installed a layer of foam though, so my hatch feels different from stock and pretty solid. YMMV in other words...

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Postby NVSteve » Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:51 am

ShipFixer wrote:
Actually doesn't the XTerra have a sealed window? The window on mine slightly flutters when I close it. That may contribute to a slightly less solid feel. I don't notice the difference with my friend's XTerra.
Yep, it does have a sealed window. One of these days when I have some time, I'll make a short video opening & closing the hatch on both. MASSIVE amount of difference, at least on my end.

You know how we all wince when we have a squealing belt at the stop light? I feel exactly as lame as that when closing the hatch on the Pathfinder.
I damped the sheet metal in mine and installed a layer of foam though, so my hatch feels different from stock and pretty solid. YMMV in other words...
Details? What kind of foam? I surprisingly have a rock on the inside of my hatch that rattles around when I open & close it. I'll have to pop the panel off at some point & it would be a good time to add some foam.

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Postby ShipFixer » Mon Mar 25, 2013 5:59 pm

I used Overkill Pro from Second Skin Audio:

http://store.secondskinaudio.com/closed-cell-foam-ccf/

It's really just 1" neoprene foam. I use their Damplifier mat product for the damping part. Rear hatch is really easy compared to other parts of the truck...


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