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TOE ISSUES

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:06 pm
by Code Pathfinder
So the other day i got myself some new tires for the rear. The shop did an alignment as well

Here are the latest alignment specs currently on my pathfinder

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Somehow, the front ended up in spec even when the LCA cam bolts were seized. How my shop did that im not sure.

The toe is what scares me the most. I went ahead and ordered new coil spring arms and alignment bolts so i can adjust my toe.

The camber is only of by 1 degree in the rear so i wont bother with that for now.

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 1:52 am
by smj999smj
The camber isn't out of spec 1 degree, it's only out 0.1 degree. But, yeah, I wouldn't worry about that, either.

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:21 am
by Thupertrooper
Toe is also where mines is way off. But I blame the weak bushings. I already replaced the coil bucket arm but looks like its already out again.

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:58 am
by disallow
Next time you are due for an alignment, for the prior week or so, give the adjustment bolts a shot of PB blaster or other good quality penetrating oil each morning before you leave.

I've had success with this in the past, and usually have nothing to report regarding 'Frozen' bolts.

But as SMJ stated, looks like you are good to go for now anyways!

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:55 am
by Code Pathfinder
Thank you all for the help suggestions and ideas!

The coil spring arms were on sale and I got the last 2 for $40 a piece.

The bolts and hardware from Nissan were around $52.

I also ordered a new electric impact wrench to help make my life a lot easier

I will post back once the new parts are put in :D

NEW ALIGNMENT BOLTS AND CONTROL ARMS

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:28 pm
by Code Pathfinder
Well today was the day. I got my spring control arms replaced!

Resorted to using diablo steel demon blades and a sawzall. No torches. (You'll see why down below)

Here are some photos

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HERE ARE THE CULPRITS FOR MY HEADACHE
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A BETTER LOOK

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My new best friends are a ridgid impact wrench and a sawzall :lol:

Going to get an alignment tomorrow

And yes I used anti seize on all of my new hardware. I dont want to cause another headache like this again.

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:52 am
by palmerwmd
Great job! :D

You Sir are my hero! 8)

Alignment

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 10:09 am
by Code Pathfinder
And My problems Continue :(

Brought it in for an alignment and here are my results

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The shop I took my pathy to claims that the control arms I just replaced wouldn't move when they were trying to adjust my toe.

I find it weird that they had issues with that since the parts are brand new.

Yet again i didn't replace the lower control arms that adjust camber, only the control arms that adjust toe.

I was told to go to another shop that specializes in 4x4's and big vehicles. They apparently have a better alignment machine and could fix my issue.

My other issue now is that when im driving straight down the road, my steering wheel is slightly crooked to the right :(

Hopefully the shop im taking it to can deal with my problems. If they cant, im cutting all the lower control arms out and replacing them all with fresh ones and new alignment bolts.

I didn't pay for this alignment at the last shop due to my vehicle being covered under their lifetime alignment plan.

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 10:14 am
by smj999smj
With what you've done and with what you're saying, it seems to place doubt that this alignment shop's techs know what they're doing!

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 11:11 am
by Code Pathfinder
I also thought that caster was non adjustable in the front? Tell me if I’m wrong about that.

The shop that did the alignment yesterday wasn’t well equipped to handle big vehicles. They had a 6 inch lifted avalanche pickup come in and they had issues aligning it.

4x4 shops only from now on.

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 12:35 pm
by disallow
After 2008 the rear didn't come with adjustable Bolts, but you can buy them and put them in.

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 2:17 pm
by smj999smj
Caster is adjustable in the front so long as the caster/camber bolts are installed on the control arms.

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 2:23 pm
by Code Pathfinder
So to summarize what I’ve read on this forum and the feedback I’ve received from numerous people.

My camber/caster bolts are seized on my lower control arms in the front.
The read control arms that control camber are seized.
The rear may not have camber bolts at all.
The alignment shop I went to yesterday can’t align my vehicle properly

Solution

Align the vehicle the best it can be and just replace all of the seized bolts and control arms

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:01 pm
by Code Pathfinder
Well it appears the previous shop didn't know what they were doing.

My pathy was almost perfectly aligned today.

Here are the updated alignment specs

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(look at the Initial results and Final results on the image :o)

They dialed the toe as best as they could in the rear while fighting the seized camber bolts. I can confirm that my model has the adjustable bolts from Nissan in the rear. Its just they are seized very bad.

Overall, I am happy with the results. They got it aligned to where im comfortable driving it and my steering wheel is now center while driving straight :D

The shop did tell me that my ball joints are going bad and I will need new control arms on the bottom on the front and rear.

Going to order those today and I will report back when those are replaced.

My camber will be free again once I do this project :D

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:03 pm
by smj999smj
It's looking a lot better!