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Ride height stock suspension
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:30 pm
by Limey
Is the front axle suspension supposed to sit a little higher than the rear ?
Re: Ride height stock suspension
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:45 pm
by Wahooo
What year and how many miles?
In my relatively minimal experience with these R51s I'd say no. Sleepy rear springs are pretty common it seems. A fresh pair of MOOG springs, spring rubbers, and KYB shocks and mine sits level. Note, after installing those springs it did look a little tall for a week or so until they settled in.
If the rear is bad I would imagine the front struts are too.
Re: Ride height stock suspension
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:26 pm
by Limey
Wahooo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:45 pm
What year and how many miles?
In my relatively minimal experience with these R51s I'd say no. Sleepy rear springs are pretty common it seems. A fresh pair of MOOG springs, spring rubbers, and KYB shocks and mine sits level. Note, after installing those springs it did look a little tall for a week or so until they settled in.
If the rear is bad I would imagine the front struts are too.
It’s a 2009 v6 with 114k miles
Shocks all around changed.
Re: Ride height stock suspension
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:36 pm
by Thupertrooper
I second the OEM Pathfinder springs being worn out. The truck should sit level or little forward rake ( aslong as the fronts are good).
Re: Ride height stock suspension
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:14 pm
by Limey
Thupertrooper wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:36 pm
I second the OEM Pathfinder springs being worn out. The truck should sit level or little forward rake ( aslong as the fronts are good).
So front fender height shouldn’t be more than the rear ?
Re: Ride height stock suspension
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:21 am
by Wahooo
The rear springs should set the ride height, not the shocks. I went with the Moog 81119 rear springs to keep the stock(ish) ride height.
Re: Ride height stock suspension
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 11:31 am
by Thupertrooper
Limey wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:14 pm
Thupertrooper wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:36 pm
I second the OEM Pathfinder springs being worn out. The truck should sit level or little forward rake ( aslong as the fronts are good).
So front fender height shouldn’t be more than the rear ?
This is how tall my 2005 100K miles sat. No weight OEM Suspension.
If you look at my Avatar you can see how much it would sag with cargo load.
Re: Ride height stock suspension
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 4:30 pm
by AS_The_Crow_Flys
Thupertrooper wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 11:31 am
Limey wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:14 pm
Thupertrooper wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:36 pm
I second the OEM Pathfinder springs being worn out. The truck should sit level or little forward rake ( aslong as the fronts are good).
So front fender height shouldn’t be more than the rear ?
This is how tall my 2005 100K miles sat. No weight OEM Suspension.
If you look at my Avatar you can see how much it would sag with cargo load.
LOL. Thats terrible.
The pathfinder is supposed to have a factory rake (meaning the rear is higher than the front). If you don't have this your springs in the front or rear are probably shot. In my opinion the rear springs are crap, but I supposed I only was around after they had 75k on them. But on the bright side, its a good time for a little lift
.
Re: Ride height stock suspension
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 4:49 pm
by palmerwmd
This is with fresh springs all around.
Note that these tires are 265-65 18s (slightly taller sidewall), not
265-60-18s (stock) so the fender gaps would look even bigger if it had the stock tire size
Re: Ride height stock suspension
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:09 am
by Limey
AS_The_Crow_Flys wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 4:30 pm
Thupertrooper wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 11:31 am
Limey wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:14 pm
So front fender height shouldn’t be more than the rear ?
This is how tall my 2005 100K miles sat. No weight OEM Suspension.
If you look at my Avatar you can see how much it would sag with cargo load.
LOL. Thats terrible.
The pathfinder is supposed to have a factory rake (meaning the rear is higher than the front). If you don't have this your springs in the front or rear are probably shot. In my opinion the rear springs are crap, but I supposed I only was around after they had 75k on them. But on the bright side, its a good time for a little lift
.
Front shocks and springs have been recently changed and rear shocks changed. back springs are original
Re: Ride height stock suspension
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:36 am
by TooMuchControl
Fender gaps/heights from the ground are specified by Nissan in the maintenance manual if I recall.
I'm trying to find the page, but I know it's in there somewhere.
This is how I checked I properly loaded the suspension when I changed the control arms.
There is a slight difference between the front and rear, maybe 1/4" or something.
I will try to find it.
Re: Ride height stock suspension
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 2:21 pm
by Limey
TooMuchControl wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:36 am
Fender gaps/heights from the ground are specified by Nissan in the maintenance manual if I recall.
I'm trying to find the page, but I know it's in there somewhere.
This is how I checked I properly loaded the suspension when I changed the control arms.
There is a slight difference between the front and rear, maybe 1/4" or something.
I will try to find it.
1/4” higher or lower on the back or front ?
Re: Ride height stock suspension
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:19 pm
by VStar650CL
Stock wheel arch heights can be found at the end of the Front Suspension (FSU) section of all the later ESM's, along with the alignment specs. See FSU-21 here for an example ('05):
https://www.nicoclub.com/service-manual ... %2Ffsu.pdf