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Tranny Drain & Fill, 2011 Pathfinder?

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:59 am
by marc515
I want to do a drain and fill on our 2011 Pathfinder, and am wondering how many quarts of Matic S I will need?

Thank you

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 4:33 am
by JAHBLESSINGS
it uses matic j trans fluid. i think i used maybe 5

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:09 am
by marc515
JAHBLESSINGS wrote:it uses matic j trans fluid. i think i used maybe 5
My owners manual calls for Matic "S"

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:43 am
by doctahjones
marc515 wrote:
JAHBLESSINGS wrote:it uses matic j trans fluid. i think i used maybe 5
My owners manual calls for Matic "S"

and nowadays castrol (i think, which is the one i used last time? can't remember now and i'm too lazy to look it up) has one that's for S or J, along with a few others.

i think i'm about to changing mine again soon though. just rolled to 89k this weekend, will probably change at 90k.

also iirc mine took ~4qts (but i bought 5). best thing to do is take a bucket/jug/etc and mark (use water for measurements) the container so when you take fluid out, you can put the same back in.

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:41 am
by JAHBLESSINGS
marc515 wrote:
JAHBLESSINGS wrote:it uses matic j trans fluid. i think i used maybe 5
My owners manual calls for Matic "S"
oh really. i wonder when they changed it. maybe the matic j was breaking down the barrier between the rad and trans causing the milk shake. i've always ponder that.

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 10:38 pm
by smj999smj
Matic "S" replaced Matic "J." Castrol makes this ATF for Nissan and is essentially the same as Castrol Multi-import ATF. Personally, I use Valvoline Maxlife ATF in Nissan Matic "D," "J/S," and "K" applications and have never had any problems. I also use it in the transfer case. The Pathfinder trans takes just under 4.0 qts. during a drain and fill. I've been using the Maxlife for 2-years plus in an 06 and an 08 Pathfinder. I usually get it in a 1-gallon jug from Advance Auto Parts for around $20.
The reason for the change has nothing to do with the trans cooler leak. The trans cooler leak is due to a seal failure on the cooler assy. inside the radiator tank. There's a YouTube video where a shop has removed the cooler assy. from the radiator and put it in a tank of water with compressed air going through it. You can clearly see where the leak is.

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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 4:25 am
by not on the rug
smj999smj wrote:Matic "S" replaced Matic "J." Castrol makes this ATF for Nissan and is essentially the same as Castrol Multi-import ATF. Personally, I use Valvoline Maxlife ATF in Nissan Matic "D," "J/S," and "K" applications and have never had any problems. I also use it in the transfer case. The Pathfinder trans takes just under 4.0 qts. during a drain and fill. I've been using the Maxlife for 2-years plus in an 06 and an 08 Pathfinder. I usually get it in a 1-gallon jug from Advance Auto Parts for around $20.
The reason for the change has nothing to do with the trans cooler leak. The trans cooler leak is due to a seal failure on the cooler assy. inside the radiator tank. There's a YouTube video where a shop has removed the cooler assy. from the radiator and put it in a tank of water with compressed air going through it. You can clearly see where the leak is.
this. the s replaced the j. I used the Valvoline maxlife atf for my last drain and fill and it took exactly 4 qts.

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 5:06 am
by JAHBLESSINGS
how can matic s replace matic j when nissan still sells it? i bought some about a month ago. i think parts managers are not selling the matic j due because they make more money selling the matic s.

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 6:44 am
by akley88
i used royal purple max atf in mine with no issues. its also in my transfer case.

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:58 am
by smj999smj
Nissan Matic Type "J" is no longer made, but there may still be a lot of it on the shelves at various Nissan dealers. Matic Type "S" has superceded Type "J." Type "J" and "S" are both made by Castrol, sold under the Castrol name "Transmax J" worldwide, except for the US, where it is sold as "Castrol Multi-import ATF." It's a semi-synthetic ATF made to JASO 1A specs, which is the Japanese standard for ATF and is far superior than the traditional Dexron III/Mercon ATF that was used in US domestics for years. Most full-synthetic ATF's are made to meed or exceed the JASO 1A specs, so most will work as a replacement ATF in Nissan Type "J/S/D" applications. Just make sure that whatever brand you go with, it states it is recommended for use in Nissan Type "J" or "S" applications. So, unless you enjoy spending $10/quart for "genuine Nissan ATF," there are plenty of alternatives that will work just fine and a lot cheaper. As I said earlier, for me, Valvoline Maxlife ATF works great...and it's half the price of "genuine Nissan Type "S."

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 11:40 am
by marc515
I could not find Castrol Multi-import ATF, but did find Castrol Transmax Import Multi-Vehicle trans fluid, and according to the PDS is only good for Nissan Matic D, J, and K applications. http://msdspds.castrol.com/bpglis/Fusio ... %20PDS.pdf

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 12:48 am
by smj999smj
That publication is from 2011; I'm not sure when Type "S" was released or maybe they just didn't update it. Bottom line is that it states it safe for JASO 1A spec transmissions, so it will work for Type "S" applications. From what I understand, Type "S" is the same as Type "J" but has improved friction modifiers. Per Nissan TSB #NTB08-049b, either "S" or "J" is fine in the Nissan 5spd. RWD A/T. For the Nissan 7-spd. RWD A/T, they list only Type "S" ATF.

Re: Tranny Drain & Fill, 2011 Pathfinder?

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 2:08 pm
by twinblown
marc515 wrote:I want to do a drain and fill on our 2011 Pathfinder, and am wondering how many quarts of Matic S I will need?

Thank you
Did my first drain and refill (apox. 4 1/2 quarts) at 100Kmiles. I am now a few thousand miles away from 200K and plan to do that again. you have a 2011 model with how many miles? I don't think I would worry to much.