The Nissan Path

hey guys kinda dissapointed in my new path, 06 they said it had an lsd in it so i thought they were tellin the truth. but come to find out i jacked her up spun one tire and the other went the opposite way so i drained the fluid and popped off the rear cover and taaddaaaa an open differential. so no i would like to know who has a lsd for it or who makes a locker for it thanks guys.

The Path uses 'ABLS', or Active Brake Limited Slip. I.E., the ECU will clamp the brake on the spinning wheel to force power over to the wheel with traction. No, not technically an LSD, but it seems within the scope of expected dealership half-truths

I'm not aware of any real LSDs or lockers available specifically for the Path yet, but please look around and let us know what you find.

hmm this "ABLS" really should have been explained i owuldnt have gone for it because i know that a tru lsd is far superior...but oh well... i did however find out that arb makes an air locker but it comes at a price of 800+ so i think ill get that. kind of unfortunate that no one makes a lsd i rather like the idea of a tru lsd over the locker and th "abls"

I have inquired from ARB USA about the locker for the 05+ but could not confirm the spline count. We either have the 32 or 29 spline. When you find out which one to get, please let us know since I am going to get one as well.

Thanks.

240sx,

Why do you prefer an lsd rather than a true locker? I believe a true locker is superior for off roading than an lsd. I agree, the ABLS on the Pathy is not all that good, it's too slow to react (3-6 secs), and when it does, you are already stuck. It happened to me already.

ragpaoa, i have allways been a fan of lsd just because it will better your cornering traction and straight line traction on the road, in the snow and offroad. but i like the idea of having a tru lsd allways working for me when drving the vehicle. also im not an extreme offroader and for most people a quality limited slip would provide more than enough traction.
but i think im onto something guys i have a feeling that the 350z differential is the same as ours. it has the same gear ratio (3.357) and the housings are very very similar here are some pics of both of them

the pathy

http://www.my350z.com/forum/attachment. ... 1166388802

the Z

http://www.my350z.com/forum/attachment. ... 1163094891

oh and ragpaoa i will find out the spline count for ya within a couple days...your speaking about the count on the stub shafts correct?

I always though that cornering traction was best w/ an open diff. because if you apply any power to a locked or aggressive LSD, you'll spin the inside tire and lose the rear end. Am I missing something here?

lsd transfers power to the nonslipping tire when your in a corner and you apply more power naturally the inside wheel will want to spin but becasue the lsd applys more power to the tire with the most traction it will fight this. with a locker both wheels are forced to roll at the same rate and in a corner the inside tire will drag. but comparing a locker and a lsd is like apples and oranges. in short an open differential is not optimal for anything except maybe coasting. this is why race cars run lsd.

My old 240Z racer car actually had a locked diff, but that's a different story

With an open diff once one rear wheel looses traction your done, it just sits and spins, while with an LSD you're going to at least get some power to both wheels.

In an odd way amr40509 is right, it's kinda hard to power-oversteer with an open diff, but honesty being a sports car nut I've never considered it that way...

240sx,

Yes, I mean the count on the stub shaft. I am assuming it is the 32 count being a truck. I know the Pathy has a R200 rearend, and a R180 front, and I know the 350z is of the 200 series, but not sure if it's R200 or C200 (don't know what the differences are) and maybe the 350z has a smaller spline count. Not sure, but if they are the same, then we can get an LSD for the Pathy as well. Let us know what you find out.

I do agree, I had an a 90 Pathfinder 4x4 with an LSD rear and it went almost anywhere offroad.

the spline count on the stub shaft was 31, i triple checked it to make sure im gonna find someone on the 350z forums to figure out how many splines are on the stubs in there diff.

Why did Nissan go away from a standard spline? I guess they want all the money from Nismo products for themselves. That sucks, because they haven't really made any Nismo stuff for our Pathy. I don't consider cosmetics worth anything. Go fast stickers only show you like to give free advertising.

Was that 31 Splines for the Pathy rear you verified? If that's the case, then the ARB locker should work. They have a 31 spline version for the 200. The 31 spline is what I was expecting since it is a truck.
Let us know about the 350Z. I'm betting it's a 29 spline since it won't need the thicker shafts like the truck, but who knows.
What LSD would you go with, the stock or an aftermarket like the KAAZ 2-way?

boogeyman...im with you on this...i odnt understand why htey wouldnt make there product available to all r200 diffs...thats why im really hoping that they have the same spline count on the 350z

rag...i was looking at the quaife because it doesnt need new output shafts its a straight drop in for the open, and its supposed to be silent, very smooth and because it uses no clutch packs it wont ever need to be rebuilt. Carbonetics now makes one carbon clutch plates in it that will outlast the vehicle and i have a feeling it would outperform the quaife. so i dont really know ill have to do some more reading.

Quaif's rock for street use, but the issue with them is that the spinning wheel must at least have some load on it or it won't work properly. In an off-road environment, as soon as you get one wheel up in the air it'll simply spin just like an open diff. I'd be aiming for clutch type or viscous personally if available...