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Random no-start

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 8:31 am
by RatLabGuy
'08 LE, 188k.
Generally no problems w/ the car.
Its only driven 1-2 times a week as a spare.

3 times no, it has randomly not wanted to start. Engine turns over just fine... it jus cranks and cranks, as though no fuel. Turn off, turn on, try again, no luck. Then after X number of tries, maybe just waiting a few mins... it works. When it cranks up, no stumbling or fowl running or anything.
Then, no signs of problems for several days, a good 2 dozen+ trips.

This last time I triedi t several times, waited a few days, went back, didn't work, tried it again right away, fired right up. So it dosn't even seem to be a time/waiting thing.

No OBDII codes.
Only other problem with teh car is thatt he airbag light has been flashing for a very long time (years), and we just realized the horn dosn't work. (I'm assuming there's something up w/ the clock ring in the column, I'll be investigating that in parallel).

Any ideas? I'm new to working on these cars but not DIYing everything on vehicles

Re: Random no-start

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 6:04 pm
by bozoneX
Easiest to check is a bad ground on your battery. See if the negative terminal can wiggle at all. Next might be cam or crank position sensors or IPDM, but they tend to throw other lights on the dash like VDC SLIP or check engine light.

Re: Random no-start

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 6:31 pm
by RatLabGuy
bozoneX wrote:
Fri Nov 12, 2021 6:04 pm
Easiest to check is a bad ground on your battery. See if the negative terminal can wiggle at all. Next might be cam or crank position sensors or IPDM, but they tend to throw other lights on the dash like VDC SLIP or check engine light.
Thanks.
No battery issues. It cranks perfectly fine, plenty of juice. It'll just sit and crank and crank and crank.

Replies on another forum (non-Pathfinder specific) have suggested maybe a fuel pump problem. Not complete failure but maybe juuuust enough to not properly prime - sometimes.
It starts up fine now. I went out and listened - with the key ON but not cranking, I don't obviously hear the pump. But I don't know that I ever have - is it normal to in these vehicles?

Re: Random no-start

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 7:17 pm
by palmerwmd
I do not know how helpful this will be since its a different marque, but my old 1984 BMW 528e had the exact same symptoms and they were traced down to a bad fuel pump.

Re: Random no-start

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 8:07 pm
by RatLabGuy
palmerwmd wrote:
Fri Nov 12, 2021 7:17 pm
I do not know how helpful this will since its a different marque, but my old 1984 BMW 528e had the exact same symptoms and they were traced down to a bad fuel pump.
thanks, thats at least a start.

Re: Random no-start

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 12:07 pm
by TooMuchControl
I'd go with the fuel pump and would test it like this dude.

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+ ... aJ64PwDQ18

Intermittent ca-ca is a pain.