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Dead...but Alive. Lesson Learned in Nuts, Power, and how things actually work

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 4:34 pm
by TooMuchControl
Driving home from work, decided to pull over into a Timmy's coffee on my way back from Peterborough...

hit a rut, and BOOM lost all power, all brakes, all steering...
Glided into, and through a gas station...
past the gas pumps.....
and then finally had enough strength to push on the brakes...stopped the truck...WTF.

All dash lights on. VDC< AWD, etc....
will not crank, not even a click....
But lights are on. Dash is alive....
Radio is working....

I thought...did the battery cable just fall off the truck?
But I have power / lights / radio...everything...

Checked under the hood...serp is there...
nothing lost...fluid....nothing...everything seems good...
Truck will not start, no starter...hmmmmm....
Called CAA for a tow....and planned to go to the Nissan Dealer all worried....

So..I remembered that I purchased a Foxwell Code Reader specific for the truck, and decided that I will hook it up and see what it sees...I had it on me always in my truck.

BUT - two things I noticed

...NO CHECK ENGINE LIGHT on the dash.
...NO TRANSMISSION INDICATION on the dash as I switched through all the gears.

Pugged my code reader, and it failed to read the VIN automatically. Weird.
Dead ECU?
Manually entered the truck information, and it reads all the codes finec from the ECU....
But it could not read the VIN, but read all the modules....

I will tease you all in a second post...how I figured this out...on the side of the road, with a multi-meter I had on hand with me...and cancelled my tow... and back on the road in 30 minutes...

I'd love to hear the hypothesis of some, as to what it could have been....

Re: Dead...but Alive. Lesson Learned in Nuts, Power, and how things actually work

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 6:34 pm
by silverarrow27
My hypothesis is that then you woke up?

All kidding aside, not the slightest clue. Only thing I can think of is some sort of kill switch or something became unplugged/loose.

Re: Dead...but Alive. Lesson Learned in Nuts, Power, and how things actually work

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:18 pm
by TooMuchControl
Haha. Yes. but no.

Of all the things that could happen - the nut holding one of the power leads on the battery fuse loosened and killed half the truck in mid flight.

It was the only thing I could think of. as the starter would be isolated from the computer, at the battery.

I got lucky.

The Code reader clued me in. It was as-if half the truck was on, and the other half off.

Re: Dead...but Alive. Lesson Learned in Nuts, Power, and how things actually work

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 10:08 pm
by palmerwmd
Hmm interesting .

Thanks for sharing!!
I once had a odd situation almost like that, though not as bad.
years ago.
Was loose battery cable.

Re: Dead...but Alive. Lesson Learned in Nuts, Power, and how things actually work

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2022 6:36 pm
by VStar650CL
TooMuchControl wrote:
Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:18 pm
Of all the things that could happen - the nut holding one of the power leads on the battery fuse loosened and killed half the truck in mid flight.
We actually see that once or twice a year from the factory, although the later models are laid out differently and it's usually the nut on the ground cable that's loose and not the hot side. Typically it kills the whole car every time it hits a big bump, but it usually re-connects after bouncing and doesn't stall the engine, so you find a boatload of "past" battery-related codes in systems all over the car.