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A/C malfunctioning

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 1:36 pm
by labsy
Hi,

I serviced the engine during winter, changed chains, sprockets, gaskets...meaning, whole front end was teared apart. But during cold weather I did not need A/C cooling.

But now, when heat is coming, I found out, A/C does not cool. Ok, did some service:
- the refrigerator pressure switch was broken, probably during engine repair, so I replaced it with new one
- regenerated and refilled refrigerator gas

But still, A/C cooling no go.
Then I checked A/C compressor. Took off electrical connection and wired it directly to 12V+, and compressor kicked-in instantly, and vent blowing out ice-cool air. Nice, compressor is OK.

But still my auto A/C does not work.
Actually, hotter it get's outside, more hot air it blows in. Not as hot as if I turn it to full heat, but still it's hotter than outside air.

Any ideas what else could I check myself, before visiting the dealership?

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:03 pm
by labsy
Well, I came down to possible malfunction of A/C pressure sensor in front refrigerator.

Anybody have any data on how/what to measure to test if pressure sensor is OK?

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:17 am
by labsy
My monologue continues :)

I've tried with some AUTO TESTS as follows:
- Auto-test of lights, vipwers and A/C compressor clutch and it was SUCCESS
- Auto-test of A/C components, but could not initiate it. Test should be performed doing those steps: Ignition ON, then turn Vent dial CCV + Temp dial CV, release them and press AUTO within 3 seconds. Tried multiple times, but could not get it started.

So, what I know so far?
1.) A/C compressor is OK, it can be started by control commands
2.) Obviously some other component does not give OK signal, most probably A/C pressure switch.

I've tested +5V at A/C refrigerant pressure switch, so it's getting power supply. Would like to manually bypass its OK signal, but how?

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 12:59 pm
by labsy
Finally got to proper data about A/C refrigerant pressure sensor.
It's one like this:
Image

what I did was connect 2kOhm and then 50kOhm resistor between 5V feed and return Signal wire to bypass the sensor. In one case A/C kicked in alone, and in other case A/C + refrigerator cooler fan both kicked in.
Which is OK...in one case CPU thought refrigerant pressure is within low limit, meaning it's not hot, so only compressor kicked in, while in other case CPU detected high pressure, meaning refrigerant is hot and needs cooling.

With this simple procedure I found out, that my NEW A/C pressure switch is broken and needs to be replaced.
Took me 1 month to check everything else and come back to just replaced (obviously failed) pressure switch, which needs warranty replacement.

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:42 pm
by disallow
Friggin awesome info on the switch! I was just going through the same thing on my 2010 rogue which uses the same switch. Fortunately I had a Genuine Nissan one in my tool box, so I replaced it, and the AC works wonderfully now.

Sorry I didn't see this post sooner, could have at least chimed in!

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A/C pressure switch removal

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 8:54 am
by minostar73
Hello,
This switch is screwed on to the dryer correct?
Do you have to discharge your refrigerant before removing the switch?
Thanks for any tip.

Re: A/C pressure switch removal

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 11:55 am
by disallow
minostar73 wrote:Hello,
This switch is screwed on to the dryer correct?
Do you have to discharge your refrigerant before removing the switch?
Thanks for any tip.
Yes if you don't it will all leak out when you remove the switch and you'll freeze yours hand.

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 5:49 am
by labsy
Hmm...problems again.
Anybody knows where A/C compressor relay is located? I've searched through all relays in engine bay, around IPDM box, but none of those is for A/C compressor.
Any idea where else to look?

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:53 pm
by disallow
Pretty sure that the AC compressor on off is part of the IPDM functionality.

You can check the compressor clutch engagement by doing this test:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.titant ... ml%3famp=1

If you hear the AC compressor click during this IPDM self check, then the issue is not the compressor. My money is on the pressure switch or low refrigerant.

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:31 am
by Graham W
labsy wrote:Finally got to proper data about A/C refrigerant pressure sensor.
It's one like this:
Image

what I did was connect 2kOhm and then 50kOhm resistor between 5V feed and return Signal wire to bypass the sensor. In one case A/C kicked in alone, and in other case A/C + refrigerator cooler fan both kicked in.
Which is OK...in one case CPU thought refrigerant pressure is within low limit, meaning it's not hot, so only compressor kicked in, while in other case CPU detected high pressure, meaning refrigerant is hot and needs cooling.

With this simple procedure I found out, that my NEW A/C pressure switch is broken and needs to be replaced.
Took me 1 month to check everything else and come back to just replaced (obviously failed) pressure switch, which needs warranty replacement.
where is this sensor located?
My Motor turns but despite being refilled its the same, blows warm most of the time. No leaks detected.....

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:43 am
by disallow
Graham W wrote:
labsy wrote: It's one like this:
Image
where is this sensor located?
My Motor turns but despite being refilled its the same, blows warm most of the time. No leaks detected.....
Not sure on your diesel, but on my 4.0L V6 it's close to the battery on the left side of the engine bay, located on the high pressure line.

Don't mistake the power steering pressure switch for this one. I did that once in case you were wondering...

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