outoforder wrote: ↑Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:20 pm
1)Next trivia question-how many years was the V8 available in the US?
2)And…is the r51 still produced internationally?
1) 2008, 2009, 2011 and 2012.
However the jump in fuel prices in 2008 means that customer take rate quickly became quite low for the V8s, so dealers ordered very very few V8s after that model year and as a result V8s newer than 2008 Model year are kind of a unicorn.
I had a chance to buy a 2011 or 2012, low miles V8 for 17k last year.
I felt it was a lot of money and also it was black which IMO is too hard to take care of.
Now I wish I would have pulled the trigger.
The V8 engines add not just the V8, but also upgraded front and rear diffs, transfer case with additional auto feature, beefed up transmission (extra clutch packs) so basically they pack the entire powertrain of a fullsize pickup, the Titan, into a mid size SUV.
This I think makes them quite special and in form and function the equal of a Lexus GX460/Landcruiser Prado (but w/o the upgraded luxury looks and stiff price).
2) Yes. You can still buy new R51s in Europe (or least this was true last year)
I believe they are built in Spain but do not recall the source.
The engine selection there is different from the US and the 4.0 and the 5.6 gassers are not available there, but come to Europe as very very rare grey market imports from other counties most commonly the US via servicemen stationed there.
Servicemen stationed in Europe get to sell their vehicles to locals before they PCS.
The locals when they do buy them though get socked with a hefty tax penalty in most countries (the import customs that the US service member did not have to pay due to his SOFA status then comes due to be paid by the EU purchaser).
But to some the ability to own a vehicle with a, to them, exotic engine sometimes outweighs the penalties.
Also LPG conversions of large US style motors are common, when operated in Europe under $6-8/gallon gas conditions, especially in central and western Europe, but less so in Eastern Europe where they often leave them as gassers.