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Rim Downsize, is it possible?

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 4:00 pm
by SF205
So I have a 2012 Path SV and it came with the OEM 17in wheels. My question is can I downgrade the rim size to some 16x8’s in order to run 32’s in a common size for BFG Ko2’s?

Re: Rim Downsize, is it possible?

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 5:48 pm
by palmerwmd
Yes,

there was an Off Road Edition for your generation Pathy.
It had P265/75R16 Tires on 16 x7.0 wheels.
Such wheels will fit your generation Pathfinder perfectly.

There is a pic on top of this article with a green Pathy shod with those wheels.
https://www.newcartestdrive.com/reviews ... athfinder/

respectfully,

Fred

Re: Rim Downsize, is it possible?

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:40 am
by smj999smj
As long as it has the V6; the minimum size with the V8 engine is 17".

Re: Rim Downsize, is it possible?

Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2021 8:44 am
by labsy
It's not about the engine, but brake disc/caliper size on front axle. If you have 320 mm discs front, I think 17'' is the smallest size whjeel that fits. But if you have 296mm discs, then 16'' wheel will fit, too.

Re: Rim Downsize, is it possible?

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2021 5:20 pm
by smj999smj
labsy wrote:
Fri Dec 24, 2021 8:44 am
It's not about the engine, but brake disc/caliper size on front axle. If you have 320 mm discs front, I think 17'' is the smallest size whjeel that fits. But if you have 296mm discs, then 16'' wheel will fit, too.
You are correct! I don't usually consider the European variants of the R51 when I answer. In the US, however, the V8 R51 came with the 320 MM discs and the V6 R51, along with the V6 D40 Frontier and the WD40 Xterra, all came with the 296 MM discs. We don't have the diesels, here.

Re: Rim Downsize, is it possible?

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 5:54 pm
by outoforder
I like the “more tire/smaller rim” look of the off-road model. A friend of mine had one. Did they make the off road variant for all of the production run? (05-12). I’ve also wondered why they didn’t call that trim “pro-4x” like they did with the Titan, frontier and xterra.

Re: Rim Downsize, is it possible?

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 6:53 pm
by palmerwmd
outoforder wrote:
Wed Dec 29, 2021 5:54 pm
1)I like the “more tire/smaller rim” look of the off-road model. A friend of mine had one.
2)Did they make the off road variant for all of the production run? (05-12).
3)I’ve also wondered why they didn’t call that trim “pro-4x” like they did with the Titan, frontier and xterra.
1) It was the same wheels as on the 05-10 Xterra 'Offroad".
You can find them on ebay often new or used:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/224105542683?h ... SwxkpeOtvg
2) They made it from 05 though a later year. I dont recall which but it was not through all the way
3) The PRO4X trim terminology did not appear on the Xterras and frontiers until 11 model year if memory serves.
By then the Pathfinder OR had been discontinued.

Re: Rim Downsize, is it possible?

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 6:58 pm
by palmerwmd
palmerwmd wrote:
Wed Dec 29, 2021 6:53 pm
outoforder wrote:
Wed Dec 29, 2021 5:54 pm
1)I like the “more tire/smaller rim” look of the off-road model. A friend of mine had one.
2)Did they make the off road variant for all of the production run? (05-12).
3)I’ve also wondered why they didn’t call that trim “pro-4x” like they did with the Titan, frontier and xterra.
1) It was the same wheels as on the 05-10 Xterra 'Offroad".
You can find them on ebay often new or used:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/224105542683?h ... SwxkpeOtvg
2) They made it from 05 though a later year. I dont recall which but it was not through all the way
3) The PRO4X trim terminology did not appear on the Xterras and frontiers until 11 model year if memory serves.
By then the Pathfinder OR had been discontinued.
Correction: this is an example of the correct wheel:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/194418933474?h ... SwZaJhXVVx

Re: Rim Downsize, is it possible?

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:17 pm
by outoforder
That is a good price-only $120 a rim. I should have went with smaller rims 10 years ago lol.

Thanks for the info Palmer! You are a pathfinder guru!

Re: Rim Downsize, is it possible?

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:20 pm
by outoforder
Next trivia question-how many years was the V8 available in the US?

And…is the r51 still produced internationally?

Re: Rim Downsize, is it possible?

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 10:29 pm
by palmerwmd
outoforder wrote:
Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:17 pm
That is a good price-only $120 a rim. I should have went with smaller rims 10 years ago lol.

Thanks for the info Palmer! You are a pathfinder guru!
Thank you for the kind words, I take a tremendous amount of pleasure helping the Nissannauts with what little I know...
.. but truth be told the actual Guru here is SMJ, with VStar650 recently filling in as needed.
I am just their delinquent apprentice answering the easier stuff so they can save their keyboard time for the hard stuff. :)

Re: Rim Downsize, is it possible?

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 10:35 pm
by palmerwmd
outoforder wrote:
Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:20 pm
1)Next trivia question-how many years was the V8 available in the US?

2)And…is the r51 still produced internationally?
1) 2008, 2009, 2011 and 2012.
However the jump in fuel prices in 2008 means that customer take rate quickly became quite low for the V8s, so dealers ordered very very few V8s after that model year and as a result V8s newer than 2008 Model year are kind of a unicorn.

I had a chance to buy a 2011 or 2012, low miles V8 for 17k last year.
I felt it was a lot of money and also it was black which IMO is too hard to take care of.
Now I wish I would have pulled the trigger.
The V8 engines add not just the V8, but also upgraded front and rear diffs, transfer case with additional auto feature, beefed up transmission (extra clutch packs) so basically they pack the entire powertrain of a fullsize pickup, the Titan, into a mid size SUV.
This I think makes them quite special and in form and function the equal of a Lexus GX460/Landcruiser Prado (but w/o the upgraded luxury looks and stiff price).

2) Yes. You can still buy new R51s in Europe (or least this was true last year)
I believe they are built in Spain but do not recall the source.
The engine selection there is different from the US and the 4.0 and the 5.6 gassers are not available there, but come to Europe as very very rare grey market imports from other counties most commonly the US via servicemen stationed there.
Servicemen stationed in Europe get to sell their vehicles to locals before they PCS.

The locals when they do buy them though get socked with a hefty tax penalty in most countries (the import customs that the US service member did not have to pay due to his SOFA status then comes due to be paid by the EU purchaser).
But to some the ability to own a vehicle with a, to them, exotic engine sometimes outweighs the penalties.
Also LPG conversions of large US style motors are common, when operated in Europe under $6-8/gallon gas conditions, especially in central and western Europe, but less so in Eastern Europe where they often leave them as gassers.