How To: Fix Rear Alignment After lift

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gonefishing84
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Re: How To: Fix Rear Alignment After lift

Postby gonefishing84 » Sat Apr 29, 2023 9:56 am

Did you have my luck with the U.S. Model?


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Re: Rear Alignment Part Numbers

Postby r51luv » Thu Aug 15, 2024 8:32 am

Code Pathfinder wrote:
Fri Jun 04, 2021 5:16 pm
Alright here are the part numbers:

Passenger Side Rear Upper Control Arm: 55501EB31A

Drivers Side Rear Upper Control Arm: 55502EB31A

Passenger Side Rear Lower Control Arm: 551A0EB31A

Drivers Side Rear Lower Control Arm: 551A1EB31A

SuperPro Offset Bushings Rear Upper Control Arms: SPF3977K

SuperPro Offset Bushings Rear Lower Control Arms: SPF3975K

The rear control arms need to come from the Overseas pathfinder. The Bushings from super pro don't work on the USA pathfinder control arms. The overseas pathfinder arms use larger bushings and they are tapered.

Other than that, they fit like a glove and are beefier as well which is nice!
So to be clear...you did not have to replace your US coil bucket or its bushings, right? The things you replaced were your US spec upper/lower control arms and their bushings?

Also, do you have the name of the vendor you bought your upper/lower control arms from? I'm trying to find them on ebay but have been able to find only the passenger side rear upper control arm.

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Re: How To: Fix Rear Alignment After lift

Postby silverarrow27 » Thu Aug 15, 2024 9:07 am

You don't have to go this route if you don't have an extreme lift like the OP. There are offset bushings made available for US market Pathfinders. If you have a standard 2" lift, all you need is the offset bushings for the rear uca. You don't need to waste your money on Australian spec control arms or anything.

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Re: How To: Fix Rear Alignment After lift

Postby r51luv » Thu Aug 15, 2024 10:00 am

Interesting and thank you for lmk. Are https://superprousa.com/products/spf458 ... iyaLzl624F the offset bushings that will help with the issue? The title says "Rear" but the description says "front upper control arm". I have the Ironman Foam Cell with HD springs which gave me a 2.5" lift instead of the advertised 1.5" (that's mostly due to me not having additional static weight that the HD springs are designed for). Long story short, I have to delay buying additional things (armor, tire carrier, etc.) that would help with the weight so I'm trying to figure out how to resolve the alignment issue.

EXTRA INFO:
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Hopefully you can see the picture but if you can't, the big issue is my rear camber is 1.9 degrees for the left and 1.8 degrees for the right. My toe is in spec for both left and right. However, the tech said that there is incredible pressure on the bolts so he expects the toe/camber to be off again as I drive.

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Re: How To: Fix Rear Alignment After lift

Postby silverarrow27 » Fri Aug 16, 2024 12:11 pm

I've never bought my bushings anywhere else, but here https://www.4x4parts.com/i-22756999-rea ... hings.html ensuring that I get the right bushings the first time. You would run into this issue regardless if you ran medium or heavy springs unfortunately. I'm guessing you're using eccentric bolts in the rear as well?

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Re: How To: Fix Rear Alignment After lift

Postby r51luv » Fri Aug 16, 2024 1:19 pm

Understood. Thanks for sharing that link. How many miles have you put on with these offset bushings? Any issues so far?

For the rear suspension parts, I have either OEM or Z1 Offroad parts (except the spring and shocks, of course) and I wasn't even aware there could be other kinds of bolts. I first put these:
https://shop.hartnissanofnova.com/p/899 ... 7s000.html
https://shop.hartnissanofnova.com/p/Sus ... 7S001.html

but recently put these on because they have 5mm extra adjustment. Even though they are technically for the front but figured it was worth a shot:
https://www.z1offroad.com/front-suspens ... 55550.html

The longer bolts made it somewhat close but still not where I'd like the alignment.

I'm guessing either option (UCA offset bushings or enough static weight so that the height is reduced) should resolve my alignment issues. Just trying to figure out whether the bushings will be cheaper because I don't do the work myself, don't have the space or time, unfortunately.

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Re: How To: Fix Rear Alignment After lift

Postby silverarrow27 » Sat Aug 17, 2024 12:01 pm

I've put around 9-10k miles on the bushings with some off roading and no issues.

You've got all the right bolts in place so the bushings would be all that you need. I'm the same as you, I'm able to do most of the work, but when it comes to pressing in new bushings, I leave that to a pro to worry about. The local guy I use charged me $120 do that job for both arms.

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Re: How To: Fix Rear Alignment After lift

Postby r51luv » Sat Aug 17, 2024 2:05 pm

Great! These bushings sound good. What part of the country is local to you? $120 for both is a STEAL. Going to see if I can find someone to do that for me. Will be some time though because this is my daily so have to plan it out.

Thanks for the help!

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Re: How To: Fix Rear Alignment After lift

Postby silverarrow27 » Sat Aug 17, 2024 3:39 pm

I'm right outside of Palm Springs in California.

r51luv
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Re: How To: Fix Rear Alignment After lift

Postby r51luv » Sat Aug 17, 2024 4:51 pm

Nice. I'm in the DC area. How long does it take to take off the upper control arms in the back?

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Re: How To: Fix Rear Alignment After lift

Postby silverarrow27 » Sat Aug 17, 2024 10:50 pm

I've done it several times so at most maybe 10-15 minutes per side. I don't have to worry about rust and stuff here. If you've had suspension work done recently and you know you don't have to worry about rust, should be pretty quick. The biggest thing is getting that ball joint out from the knuckle will take you the longest.

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Re: How To: Fix Rear Alignment After lift

Postby r51luv » Sun Aug 18, 2024 6:40 am

That's not bad at all. I don't have rust either, thank God.

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Re: How To: Fix Rear Alignment After lift

Postby r51luv » Mon Aug 19, 2024 4:57 pm

Did your ride become very stiff after switching to PU bushings? Also, have you had to grease them a few times to keep them lubricated and noise free?

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Re: How To: Fix Rear Alignment After lift

Postby silverarrow27 » Mon Aug 19, 2024 5:20 pm

No, my ride is a bit stiff from the OME springs, not from the bushings. Never had to grease them after install and it's still noise free after two years.

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Re: How To: Fix Rear Alignment After lift

Postby r51luv » Mon Aug 19, 2024 7:15 pm

I like the sound of that. I also came across these UCAs. https://www.garage23.net/product/y62-re ... ntrol-arms. Someone in a Facebook group claims that these should fit an R51 Pathfinder as well because the UCAs for Pathfinder and Armada are the same. Do you know if that's true? I have looked at pictures online and am quite confident that they are not the same but I could be wrong.

This person actually has them installed on his R51 but he has an Armada subframe swap so I think he might be mistaken.


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