Yes, I've come across the Garage23 arms recently. I haven't compared the Pathfinder & Armada rear ucas physically side by side, but just going based on pictures, they look different and my answer is no. I remember comparing control arm dimensions almost 2 years ago because I was hoping to use Armada rear control arms on my Pathfinder like we were able to for the front suspension instead of doing a rear subframe swap, the dimensions were pretty much the same exception of the mounting points which were a bit different which wouldn't benefit our Pathfinder with any extra travel nor would it fit. Our rear uca wraps around the shock whereas the Armada rear uca runs behind to one side of the rear shock so I don't know if the Armada rear uca would clear our shock since our shock is mounted to the rear subframe as oppose to the Armada mounts to the frame(possibly creating different shock angles). I'm actually quite disappointed for the $800 price of them though that you can't adjust toe & camber on the arms like these front ucas from Dirt King. I think it was a missed opportunity for Garage23.

https://www.highroadsuspension.com/prod ... 909c&_ss=c

Got it. Yeah, the lack of adjustability is not very popular but for those who have more than 2" of lift, this does correct geometry in the back. I also heard that All Dogs Offroad is working on adjustable UCAs for the Pathfinder but there is no set timeframe of when they'll be available. Fingers crossed they actually make one and it's a good product.

I did come across someone saying ADO was working on one. We'll see if it's adjustable or not and if it comes to fruition. It would definitely benefit the R51 community because there's always so much confusion behind what our vehicles need to fix the rear camber after a suspension lift. The problem then is that not a lot of corporate type alignment shops would touch adjustable control arms so you as the owner would have to get the arms adjusted as close as possible to oem spec before bringing it in for a 4wheel alignment.

There's always chalk line, a tape measure, and a plumb bob. It isn't like the world always had laser alignment machines. If you understand what the specs mean, old school will get you pretty darn close.

Haha I mean yeah common sense and youtube would tell you so, but from what I've noticed, most people putting a lift in their r51 just don't wrench or wants to deal with it.

silverarrow27 wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 21, 2024 6:14 am

Haha I mean yeah common sense and youtube would tell you so, but from what I've noticed, most people putting a lift in their r51 just don't wrench or wants to deal with it.

Had a question about the offset bushings from 4x4parts.com. In the description it says:

• Allows additional camber adjustment by pulling arms in or pushing them out depending on how sleeves are positioned when installed

If I understand the above correctly, seems like I should know exactly what position the sleeve should be installed in. But how do you know which position of the offset bushing corresponds to positive/negative camber before installation?

I initially thought I would just put them in and then the alignment shop would do the alignment normally using the bolts on the lower control arm and coil bucket but this bullet is kinda confusing.

Positive camber is when the tops of the wheels are further outboard than the bottom, negative is when the bottoms are further outboard than the top. Lifts pretty much always result in too much positive camber because of the arcs of the control arms. Specs usually call for negative camber on front wheels and neutral to slightly negative on the rear.

I should have been more clear. I know what positive/negative camber is. I'm trying to figure out how to position the sleeve to correct the positive camber.

Plumb bob? If you get 'em straight up and down, it should be plenty close enough for an alignment shop to set it precisely. With offset bushings, you'll want to offset the upper arms inboard and the lowers outboard.

I think I found what I am looking for. The instructions are for a bushing for the Mazda RX-8 but I'm guessing they are probably the same as far as what to do to get the alignment fixed.

Yep, same principle. That's for the lowers, where you want to move the arm outboard to go negative. I dunno what you have. For the uppers the direction is opposite, you want to pull the arm inboard to go negative.

PS - For the left side, that assumes the diagram is a rear view. I don't see where the diagram specifies.

Thanks for the insight. I have positive camber in the back so I'll have to pull the wheel in from the top.

Yep. Here, this is more explicit:

r51luv wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 26, 2024 9:27 am

silverarrow27 wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 21, 2024 6:14 am

Haha I mean yeah common sense and youtube would tell you so, but from what I've noticed, most people putting a lift in their r51 just don't wrench or wants to deal with it.

Had a question about the offset bushings from 4x4parts.com. In the description it says:

• Allows additional camber adjustment by pulling arms in or pushing them out depending on how sleeves are positioned when installed

If I understand the above correctly, seems like I should know exactly what position the sleeve should be installed in. But how do you know which position of the offset bushing corresponds to positive/negative camber before installation?

I initially thought I would just put them in and then the alignment shop would do the alignment normally using the bolts on the lower control arm and coil bucket but this bullet is kinda confusing.

Sorry I was at a conference this past week. Hope you got it all figured out. It's relatively easy once you start playing with it for a few minutes. My first time, I was just confused as you.