
So how do you get a motor out the back of a Pathy without a hoist? Easy, you get your neighbor with a tractor and your grandfather.

My sweeet custom engine stand, lol!

The Pathy did well but I could DEFINITELY tell I had some added weight.
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Pop-ups don't seem to be as light as they used to be. The one above is over 2300lbs. empty. I figure its about 2800 lbs. loaded, maybe 3000 on a big trip.CPLTECH wrote:08Datsun,
Can you give the rest of us some info on the gas mileage while towing vs. a guesstimate of what the trip would have gotten without the trailer? Just wondering how much a fold-down gets compared to a full-size. My reg lite-weight 3k # gives me 11-12mpg vs. 20-21 not towing. With the fuel prices on the rise, was thinking of returning to the world of the pop-ups.
Thanks,
You really get that good of gas mileage? I've only been averaging 15 not towing anything. Granted that is mixed city and highway, but still.08Datsun wrote: We get about 15mpg towing that thing at a little over 60mph. The speed limit towing a trailer here in CA is 55. We get 20mpg on normal road trips driving 70-75 with four of us and out junk in the PF.
Yeah, that's the real gas mileage. Remember, the road trip and trailer towing is done almost all on the freeway or highways, until you get close to where you are going. Around town here, we get 15, just like you.gkb62001 wrote:You really get that good of gas mileage? I've only been averaging 15 not towing anything. Granted that is mixed city and highway, but still.08Datsun wrote: We get about 15mpg towing that thing at a little over 60mph. The speed limit towing a trailer here in CA is 55. We get 20mpg on normal road trips driving 70-75 with four of us and out junk in the PF.
Fossilfuleburner wrote:I had my transmission temperature gauge installed four years ago. I just did the radiator bypass two weeks ago. Here’s what I noticed:Have you done the radiator trans cooler bypass?
If you have what type of trans temps are you getting?
(and is the temp going up a lot when towing?)
Transmission temps run lower when there isn’t a lot of demand put on the transmission. This consists of mostly highway and light city driving (less than 2 miles just to get on the freeway). This is the type of driving I do most often and temperatures are 140-150 now vs 160-165 before. This is in 70 degree outside air temperature.
Temperatures climb much faster than before in stop-and-go city traffic where there isn’t a lot of airflow across the auxiliary cooler. I definitely see higher temperatures here! Outside air temperatures have been in the mid-70’s where I live so I haven’t been able to test in 90-100 weather but judging by how fast temperatures rise now, I’m confident we’ll see temperatures above 180, which personally, I feel is unsafe. In the past 4 years, in non-towing situations, the only times I saw transmission temperatures above 180 was when I was looking for parking in San Francisco for 30 minutes while going up and down SF hills. And climbing mountains like the Sierra to Tahoe/Reno (8,000 ft) and the Grapevine (4,200 ft) to Los Angeles.
The aux cooler is inefficient at dissipating heat without airflow whereas the radiator cooler is not dependent on airflow (since it transfers its heat through circulating water). This is why I installed a 10” fan on the transmission cooler a week after I did the bypass. I estimate the fan generates the airflow equivalent of driving 50mph.
It was a no-brainer for me to install the fan because I always saw the highest transmission temperatures on city streets when towing (180 to 210). I needed to try to restore the slow speed cooling capacity I lost with the bypass. I can post pics of the fan if anyone is interested.
The water temp at the top of the radiator will be the hotter because the coolant is pumped in from the engine into the top of the radiator. The water at the bottom of the radiator will be cooler as it has passed through the radiator and has been cooled. What the temp differnce is between the top and bottom would be interesting to know.tuleman wrote:Fossilfuleburner wrote:I had my transmission temperature gauge installed four years ago. I just did the radiator bypass two weeks ago. Here’s what I noticed:Have you done the radiator trans cooler bypass?
If you have what type of trans temps are you getting?
(and is the temp going up a lot when towing?)
Transmission temps run lower when there isn’t a lot of demand put on the transmission. This consists of mostly highway and light city driving (less than 2 miles just to get on the freeway). This is the type of driving I do most often and temperatures are 140-150 now vs 160-165 before. This is in 70 degree outside air temperature.
Temperatures climb much faster than before in stop-and-go city traffic where there isn’t a lot of airflow across the auxiliary cooler. I definitely see higher temperatures here! Outside air temperatures have been in the mid-70’s where I live so I haven’t been able to test in 90-100 weather but judging by how fast temperatures rise now, I’m confident we’ll see temperatures above 180, which personally, I feel is unsafe. In the past 4 years, in non-towing situations, the only times I saw transmission temperatures above 180 was when I was looking for parking in San Francisco for 30 minutes while going up and down SF hills. And climbing mountains like the Sierra to Tahoe/Reno (8,000 ft) and the Grapevine (4,200 ft) to Los Angeles.
The aux cooler is inefficient at dissipating heat without airflow whereas the radiator cooler is not dependent on airflow (since it transfers its heat through circulating water). This is why I installed a 10” fan on the transmission cooler a week after I did the bypass. I estimate the fan generates the airflow equivalent of driving 50mph.
It was a no-brainer for me to install the fan because I always saw the highest transmission temperatures on city streets when towing (180 to 210). I needed to try to restore the slow speed cooling capacity I lost with the bypass. I can post pics of the fan if anyone is interested.
Just so you know our engines normal operating temperature is 180 degrees so when it was hooked to the radiator i dont understand how if the water is 180 the tranny fluid wasnt the same or close to it. My bullydog tuner gives me water temp in the radiator.