I will start off by saying that I am not a serious off road driver but do drive many miles on dirt roads to mines sites all over the province of BC. I was not sure that I wanted a Bull Bar, with lights, for what I use my Pathy for and I could not justify the LED light bars I wanted. So, like most things in life, I think I came up with a pretty good compromise. I was looking for lights that would fit into the bottom portion of the grill and really could not find many that would. I decided on the IPF868 driving lights with the 100 watt lamps. The beam is narrow and does a good job lighting up the road and those beedie little eyes. It's not hard core but apparently nor am I
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